Posted on 11/21/2011 9:27:10 PM PST by trumandogz
A teenager who fatally shot a gay classmate in the back of the head during an Oxnard middle school computer lab will spend 21 years in prison under a plea deal reached Monday, closing the books on a case that drew international headlines and ignited debate on how schools should handle sexual identity issues.
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He already had a jury. They were hung. I think the problem was that the prosecution tried to over-charge in order to placate the homos.
Students and teachers at the trial testified that King had been dressing in women’s accessories and wearing makeup, and was flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.
School administrators sent a memo advising teachers to give King his space, but to report safety problems. Teachers at the trial testified that when they tried to report growing tensions between King and several boys, school leaders shunned them.
The victim’s mother, Dawn King, revealed for the first time Monday that she had contacted school officials four days before the shooting in an effort to solicit their cooperation in toning down her son’s behavior. The boy had been taken from the Kings’ home two months earlier by authorities because of problems at home.
She said she was told that her son had a civil right to explore his sexual identity.
Twenty one years is a long time for a 17 year old kid, and hopefully while in prison he will change his ways, come to a better understanding of others and not be the cold blooded killer that he was when he was 14.
I guess I live in a cave, for a story that got ‘international headlines’ this is the first I’ve heard of it.
I couldn’t care less that the victim was gay, this scum deserves 21 years, at least. Someone’s sex issues have nothing to do with it.
..”after days of conflict between the boys.”... Students and teachers at the trial testified that King had been dressing in women’s accessories and wearing makeup, and was “flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.”
‘School administrators’ sent a memo advising teachers to give King his space, .....but to report safety problems. Teachers at the trial testified that when they tried to report growing tensions between King and several boys,... “school leaders shunned them”.
The victim’s mother, Dawn King, revealed for the first time Monday that ...she had contacted school officials four days before the shooting in an effort to solicit their cooperation in “toning down her son’s behavior”. .....”The boy had been taken from the Kings’ home two months earlier by authorities because of problems at home.”
She said she was told that her son had a civil right to “explore his sexual identity.”
I posted this portion of the article because it reveals much about this case.....IMO what about the kids rights not to be hassled by a kid who is known to have many issues at home enough to remove him from the home....enough that teachers went to the school officials because of the issues he was creating for the other kids...but were shunned.
This does not excuse the boy who shot him...but where is it that we think any of our children are capable of handling disturbed and aggressive kids on a constant regardless of whatever reasons they are being agressive about.....but equally as much in this case having kids “accept” this aggresive behavior with the schools leaderships authority supporting that behavior by their refusal to intervene?
IMO the school leadership should have been charged....the kid who shot him should not have been given this lengthy jail term...you just can’t expect kids in the schools today as they are to handle these kids...it’s just sooo wrong!
It’s a complicated case. For instance, it isn’t clear that the victim was really gay. He was a small kid who learned that acting gay made him a member of a protected class. It also gave him a weapon with which to bully the bigger kids and a lot of the evidence says that that is exactly what he did.
The prosecution tried to paint the killer as a gay hating Nazi because he had a fascination with World War II stuff on the history channel. The evidence suggests that he was more a victim of the “gay” kids bullying.
Obviously, the kid way overreacted. I’m not arguing that he should walk free. The question has been what is the appropriate sentence. I think second degree is about as good as anything.
Here is a good article on the case from before the trial...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/07/18/young-gay-and-murdered.html
This is the fault of the school. Pingout tomorrow. Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.
If you read all the details, it’s not that simple.
What’s complicated about it, specifically?
Oh, right, the ‘aggressive flirting’ by some perv kid.
Obviously, we should pass a law saying that aggressive flirting—not rape, not molestation, but flirting—by humans with ideas about sex that we don’t agree with should allow for blowing someone’s head off. The feminists and other manhaters would love that.
“Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.”
And tomorrow, hundreds of millions of Americans will go to school or work with gays and I doubt that very many of those Americans will murder their gay school or work mates.
And if one does happen to murder someone he works with or is in his school, he should also go to prison or the execution chamber.
As usual you are a total idiot.
All I’m saying is that mentally ill sex perverts do not belong in school displaying their mentally ill sexual perversion, and mentally ill sex perverts should not be working in the schools. The principal of the school is a mentally ill sex pervert and allowed this to happen up to the point of the killing.
They are complicit.
The homosexual agenda is evil and those who push it, promote it, excuse it or pretend it doesn’t exist are complicit.
Do you disagree with my assertion that students who murder their fellow students should be sent to prison?
I agree about the homosexual agenda. I’m just saying it actually isn’t that complicated in the actual case, as opposed to what led to the situation. Blowing people’s heads off is and should be against the law, period. The ‘yeah, but’ stuff is the province of the post-Freudians who cook up excuses and rationales for murder to excuse criminals. That the gay activists do it doesn’t make it any less wrong than it’s ever been. I’m a ‘a society of laws not men’ type.
In todays schools, gays can grope or cop feels all they want and all that is is “Agressive Flirting”. Were this male on female the school would have treated it as the harrasment that it was.
I take it your kids have been grown and out of school a long time.
You seem extremely clueless.
The shooting happened in Oxnard. The offender was pressured and harassed by a flaming faggot and no superiors stepped in to fix the situation. So the offender grabbed a gun and killed the faggot. The teachers, administrators and parents are equally at fault since they prepared and set the table for the faggot’s murder. Evil was present on campus and no one stopped it except a young kid with a gun. He is guilty but the pressure on him was immense.
Aggressive gay sexual harassment is extremely offensive, and reliably produces violent responses from young heterosexual males who "do not want the attention." Had Larry King sexually harassed girls, I am sure that the school administrators would have responded quickly and appropriately. But when forced to choose between a gay harasser and straight young male harassment victims, the administrators decided to be politically correct. They decided to be "sensitive." Sensitive to the gay guy, who else? The kids he harassed would just have to take it, and take it, and take it. Their concerns did not matter, and their anger could be safely ignored.
Which led to a highly predictable outcome.
This is exactly what egalitarianism/Marxism creates....when you destroy God’s standards of Right and Wrong and adopt some sick perverted views of human behavior and force children to “pretend” it is “good” and “normal”. It is sick and perverted from every standard of logic, reason and biology.
It is the school system’s Bill Ayers’ type curricula that forces perversion/atheism/Satanism in the schools—since they threw out the God centered McGuffey Readers and replaced it with the Fabian Socialist Dewey’s curricula and forced it into all schools because of the commie Carter with DOE.
That boy who shot that mentally ill boy (who should have been in a mental institution) was forced to protect his honor and reputation because the administration was ignoring it.
Where was the zero tolerance of bullying-—Oh, it doesn’t exist for the homosexuals....they can break all rules, bully, tease, and be rude and vulgar and mock God and their bodies and it’s ok. IN fact: It’s their Right!!!!!
All because of the egalitarianism of Marx to make men and women interchangeable so they can confuse children and destroy the family so that children will be totally controlled by the State.
Public schools should be abolished. They are socialist/Marxist/atheist indoctrination centers and promote immorality-—the very things which the Founders condemned. Virtue and Truth are necessary for freedom—Saying a boy is a girl is a boy and that two men can take care of babies as well as the biological mother and father is such a Big Lie and disturbing to rights of all children who deserve a biological mother and father for their safety and health which all studies says is the best method of raising psychologically healthy human beings.
The school administrators should be in jail. Sick, mentally ill children should be expelled like 40 years ago when schools actually taught something. That boy that killed should never have been forced into that situation where no adults would handle the disruptive, immoral behavior of the homosexual.
I am not condoning killing people, but children are not mature human beings...that is why they are still under adult supervision. We have adults allowing insane people to run the schools. This will create chaos and killings. Rule of Law and Reason and Logic create moral, good people. Schools teach nonsense and cr*p like take pride in immoral dysfunctional behaviors and they promote all dysfunctional behaviors—truly insane—so insanity will be the result.
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