Posted on 11/21/2011 6:47:27 PM PST by Mount Athos
Did you know that the turkey you're going to enjoy on Thanksgiving Day this Thursday is probably halal? If it's a Butterball turkey, then it certainly is.
I discovered that only two plants in the U.S. that perform halal slaughter keep the halal meat separated from the non-halal meat. At other meat-packing plants, animals are slaughtered following halal requirements, but then only a small bit of the meat is actually labeled halal.
Wendy Howze, a Butterball Consumer Response Representative, responded: "Our whole turkeys are certified halal."
Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" -- in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds.
Others object because of the cruelty to animals that halal slaughter necessitates.
Still others refuse to do so on principle: why should we be forced to conform to Islamic norms? It's Islamic supremacism on the march, yet again.
Non-Muslims in America and Europe don't deserve to have halal turkey forced upon them in this way, without their knowledge or consent.
The same Islamic law that mandates that animals be cruelly slaughtered according to halal requirements also teaches hatred of and warfare against unbelievers, the oppression of women, the extinguishing of free speech, and much more that is inimical to our freedom. Don't support it on this celebration of freedom. Join our Facebook group, 'Boycott Butterball'.
Don't buy a Butterball turkey for Thanksgiving.
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Thanks.
Another tidbit on Halal. All and I repeat all of Costco’s lamb is now halal and their Coleman organic chicken. So since we loved the lamb and the organic chicken this is our last year with Costco. We are looking into Sam’s or BJ’s.
Most people just think that Halal is like Kosher. It is not. Kosher slaughter is just a way of processing so all of the blood gets out of the meat. Halal is actually a sacrifice. They point that lamb/turkey in the direction of the Black Rock of Mecca and sacrifice it to Allah. We are all Muslims now.
Personally, I prefer ham. Win-win in my viewpoint.
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My point is do whatever the hell you like. I’ll make my choices for my own reasons.
Wonderful. Lets have full disclosure. Eat a turkey dedicated to Satan or have a clean one. I know what I’ll choose.
***That’s not what the passage teaches. You clipped two verses out of context:***
I think you misread what I meant. In the Pagan world almost all meat in the market place had been offered on alters to various gods, then sent to the market place to be sold.
You go, buy some meat and don’t ask questions. If you were told the meat had been offered to idols, even in a feast, you don’t partake of it! and if you did, it showed the seller or host that you approved of the sacrifices. Any other Christians seeing you eat the sacrificed meat would conclude you were not a true Christian. So, YOU DON’T PARTAKE if you know it is a sacrifice.
Buying halal meat from a moslem meat shop shows the seller you are accepting moslem dietary rules.
Thank you. That means something to me. It is a matter of being a good steward of God’s gifts.
I absolutely agree with you.
Now that I know what they do with this meat I have a moral choice to make.
The lesson is not “never partake of meat sold to idols”. Paul’s lesson is “It is better to refrain from certain liberties than to engage in behavior that you KNOW will cause people to reject Christ.”
You omitted verse 27 to make a “point” that distorts Paul’s meaning. Paul’s concern is not with the meat nor the false gods but with doing everything he can to win unbelievers to Christ.
Is your primary concern with halal meat that eating it will cause Muslims dining at your Thanksgiving table to reject Christ?
The point is if you have a choice between clean meat and meat dedicated to Satan then it would be better to choose clean meat.
Nowhere in Scripture does Paul make that argument.
No big deal.
If you object, then buy an Empire Kosher brand turkey.
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No Butterballs for us.
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TLC Sunday, 9 PM CST
‘It is an attempt to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to bully them into thinking that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.
The problem people have with Islam is its teachings of violence against and the subjugation of unbelievers. It is with the supremacist ideology and the fervent believers in those noxious doctrines of warfare and subjugation. Yhe ultimate danger posed by a program presenting the “normal” side of life for American Muslims is that it isn’t accurate.
The danger is in the deception and obfuscation of the truth which results in the intellectual disarming of the American people.’
Pam Geller
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Email TLC.
Protest
Boycott
Get up a petition. This atrosity MUST be stopped!
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Ok. It is my original argument. Call me nuts. But given a choice I choose meat not dedicated to Satan.
Thank you for the recommendation. I think I just might do that.
And you have the right to that choice. Perhaps your conscience is such that for you it would be a sin.
But your justification is one of personal philosophy, not a biblical one.
Anyway, I hope you and yours have a blessed Thanksgiving.
there is the distinction.
Maybe you are mistaking me for another poster. I never claimed my objection was Biblical. If the last turkey in town was a Butterball I’d buy one.
If you choose to buy one I wouldn’t gain say you.
Can it be halal without the prayer and without only Moslem hands touching it?
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