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Are Mormons "Weird"?
Mormon Defense League ^ | August 12, 2011 | Mormon Defense League

Posted on 11/21/2011 4:16:37 AM PST by Saundra Duffy

The LDS Church is politically neutral, as is MDL. Mormons hold elected office and positions of responsibility in both US political parties and various parties worldwide. When we respond to any issue regarding politics, we do so only to correct misinformation and misperceptions about the Church, not in an effort to promote a particular candidate or party.

Recently, Politico reported that part of President Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign strategy will be to portray Mitt Romney, a Mormon and possible Republican presidential nominee, as “weird.” The Politico report did not specifically tie the “weird” charge to Romney’s Mormon faith, but many commentators have speculated that is the logical application of such a strategy.

Commentators from various political perspectives have also condemned any such strategy. Blogger Jane Hamsher wrote: “To preach religious tolerance as Obama does, and then engage in this kind of appeal to religious bigotry, is both hypocritical and pernicious, not to mention self-defeating…As the economy gets worse, people better be really careful about stoking tribalist rage against any minority.” Researcher and author Glenn Stanton agreed: “Yes, you can be pretty sure that it will be his Mormon faith where most of the ‘weirdness’ innuendos will land. And this from a president who had to finally and reluctantly distance himself from his own faith heritage.” Former presidential speechwriter David Frum noted: “The attacks will tiptoe up to the line of outright anti-Mormon bigotry.” In Time, political reporter Michael Crowley summed it up: “You’d like to think that the people who work for a man who has been slurred countless times because of his race would take a higher road.”

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To: Graybeard58
Read the posts posted by Elsie and others about Mormonism and see if you don't conclude that Mormonism is far beyond being "weird".



THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI

HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 16
The wicked take the truth to be hard—Lehi’s sons marry the daughters of Ishmael—The Liahona guides their course in the wilderness—Messages from the Lord are written on the Liahona from time to time—Ishmael dies; his family murmur because of afflictions. Between 600 and 592 B.C.
1 And now it came to pass that after I, Nephi, had made an end of speaking to my brethren, behold they said unto me: Thou hast declared unto us hard things, more than we are able to bear.
2 And it came to pass that I said unto them that I knew that I had spoken ahard things against the wicked, according to the truth; and the righteous have I justified, and testified that they should be lifted up at the last day; wherefore, the bguilty taketh the ctruth to be hard, for it dcutteth them to the very center.
3 And now my brethren, if ye were righteous and were willing to hearken to the truth, and give heed unto it, that ye might awalk uprightly before God, then ye would not murmur because of the truth, and say: Thou speakest hard things against us.
4 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did exhort my brethren, with all diligence, to keep the commandments of the Lord.
5 And it came to pass that they did ahumble themselves before the Lord; insomuch that I had joy and great hopes of them, that they would walk in the paths of righteousness.
6 Now, all these things were said and done as my father dwelt in a tent in the avalley which he called Lemuel.
7 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, took one of the adaughters of Ishmael to bwife; and also, my brethren took of the cdaughters of Ishmael to wife; and also dZoram took the eldest daughter of Ishmael to wife.
8 And thus my father had fulfilled all the acommandments of the Lord which had been given unto him. And also, I, Nephi, had been blessed of the Lord exceedingly.
9 And it came to passthat the voice of the Lord spake unto my father by night, and commanded him that on the morrow he should take his ajourney into the wilderness.
10 And it came to passthat as my father arose in the morning, and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round aball of curious workmanship; and it was of fine brass. And within the ball were two spindles; and the one bpointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness.
11 And it came to passthat we did gather together whatsoever things we should carry into the wilderness, and all the remainder of our provisions which the Lord had given unto us; and we did take aseed of every kind that we might carry into the wilderness.
12 And it came to pass that we did take our tents and depart into the wilderness, across the river Laman.
13 And it came to pass that we traveled for the space of four days, nearly a south-southeast direction, and we did pitch our tents again; and we did call the name of the place aShazer.
14 And it came to pass that we did take our bows and our arrows, and go forth into the wilderness to slay food for our families; and after we had slain food for our families we did return again to our families in the wilderness, to the place of Shazer. And we did go forth again in the wilderness, following the same direction, keeping in the most fertile parts of the wilderness, which were in the borders near the aRed Sea.
15 And it came to pass that we did travel for the space of many days, aslaying food by the way, with our bows and our arrows and our stones and our slings.
16 And we did follow the adirections of the ball, which led us in the more fertile parts of the wilderness.
17 And after we had traveled for the space of many days, we did pitch our tents for the space of a time, that we might again rest ourselves and obtain food for our families.
18 And it came to pass that as I, Nephi, went forth to slay food, behold, I did break my bow, which was made of fine asteel; and after I did break my bow, behold, my brethren were angry with me because of the loss of my bow, for we did obtain no food.
19 And it came to pass that we did return without food to our families, and being much fatigued, because of their journeying, they did suffer much for the want of food.
20 And it came to pass that Laman and Lemuel and the sons of Ishmael did begin to murmur exceedingly, because of their sufferings and afflictions in the wilderness; and also my father began to murmur against the Lord his God; yea, and they were all exceedingly sorrowful, even that they did amurmur against the Lord.
21 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, having been afflicted with my brethren because of the loss of my bow, and their bows having lost their asprings, it began to be exceedingly difficult, yea, insomuch that we could obtain no food.
22 And it came to pass I, Nephi, did speak much unto my brethren, because they had hardened their hearts again, even unto acomplaining against the Lord their God.
23 And it came to pass I, Nephi, did amake out of wood a bow, and out of a straight stick, an arrow; wherefore, I did arm myself with a bow and an arrow, with a sling and with stones. And I said unto my bfather: Whither shall I go to obtain food?
24 And it came to pass that he did ainquire of the Lord, for they had bhumbled themselves because of my words; for I did say many things unto them in the energy of my soul.
25 And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord came unto my father; and he was truly achastened because of his murmuring against the Lord, insomuch that he was brought down into the depths of sorrow.
26 And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord said unto him: Look upon the ball, and behold the things which are written.
27 And it came to pass that when my father beheld the things which were awritten upon the ball, he did fear and tremble exceedingly, and also my brethren and the sons of Ishmael and our wives.
28 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the ball, that they did work according to the afaith and diligence and heed which we did give unto them.
29 And there was also written upon them a new writing, which was plain to be read, which did give us aunderstanding concerning the ways of the Lord; and it was written and changed from time to time, according to the faith and diligence which we gave unto it. And thus we see that by bsmall means the Lord can bring about great things.
30 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did go forth up into the top of the mountain, according to the adirections which were given upon the ball.
31 And it came to pass that I did slay wild abeasts, insomuch that I did obtain food for our families.
32 And it came to pass that I did return to our tents, bearing the beasts which I had slain; and now when they beheld that I had obtained afood, how great was their joy! And it came to pass that they did humble themselves before the Lord, and did give thanks unto him.
33 And it came to pass that we did again take our journey, traveling nearly the same course as in the beginning; and after we had traveled for the space of many days we did pitch our tents again, that we might tarry for the space of a time.
34 And it came to pass that aIshmael died, and was buried in the place which was called bNahom.
35 And it came to pass that the daughters of Ishmael did amourn exceedingly, because of the loss of their father, and because of their bafflictions in the wilderness; and they did cmurmur against my father, because he had brought them out of the land of Jerusalem, saying: Our father is dead; yea, and we have wandered much in the wilderness, and we have suffered much affliction, hunger, thirst, and fatigue; and after all these sufferings we must perish in the wilderness with hunger.
36 And thus they did murmur against my father, and also against me; and they were desirous to areturn again to Jerusalem.
37 And Laman said unto Lemuel and also unto the sons of Ishmael: Behold, let us aslay our father, and also our brother Nephi, who has taken it upon him to be our bruler and our teacher, who are his elder brethren.
38 Now, he says that the Lord has talked with him, and also that aangels have ministered unto him. But behold, we know that he lies unto us; and he tells us these things, and he worketh many things by his cunning arts, that he may deceive our eyes, thinking, perhaps, that he may lead us away into some strange wilderness; and after he has led us away, he has thought to make himself a king and a ruler over us, that he may do with us according to his will and pleasure. And after this manner did my brother Laman bstir up their hearts to canger.
39 And it came to pass that the Lord was with us, yea, even the voice of the Lord came and did speak many words unto them, and did achasten them exceedingly; and after they were chastened by the voice of the Lord they did turn away their anger, and did repent of their sins, insomuch that the Lord did bless us again with food, that we did not perish.
 

301 posted on 11/21/2011 2:08:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Confab
Yet another fine example against those who fallaciously claim the anti Mormon’s here don’t go after “Mormons” but rather “Mormonism”.

Yup; that what happens when they get caught LYING.

Would you REALLY want it any other way?

302 posted on 11/21/2011 2:09:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
I'll try again...


Good post and accurate.


303 posted on 11/21/2011 2:12:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gaffer
...Saundra doesn’t want to get bombarded with LDS quotes, scripture and writings and teachings.

Of course not!

Since there is NO way to defend most of it!

I do, however, invite any other MORMONs reading these threads to try.

304 posted on 11/21/2011 2:14:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I, Nephi; seems to have an EGO problem.


305 posted on 11/21/2011 2:15:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I pray she’ll see someday. :(


306 posted on 11/21/2011 2:19:39 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Gaffer
You did read her first post, right?

Don't start none, won't be none comes to mind.

But I am sure referring to LDS doctrine and such as “spam” is helpful...

307 posted on 11/21/2011 2:20:04 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Confab

A liar is a liar, I don’t care how you try to spin that.

If the liar in question happens to be a mormon and is lying about ex-mormons, well then, them’s the breaks. They’re going to be called what they are a LIAR.

I’ve caught this particular one in so many lies and slanderous accusations that I’ve lost count. Am I supposed to judge all of mormonism based on this mormon?

The fact you rush in to defend a lying mormon tells me much.


308 posted on 11/21/2011 2:21:12 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

Should tell you that the poster is Mormon...

So as one would expect...


309 posted on 11/21/2011 2:22:17 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Gaffer

What hate spams?


310 posted on 11/21/2011 2:23:06 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: ejonesie22

Ahhh, thanks...that explains the attempted persecution/victimization spin.


311 posted on 11/21/2011 2:27:26 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Elsie

Yes, I still pray for him. I still have contact with his sister. She said he married a women from SLC and they have 8 children. She also told me he rarely has anything to do with his brothers and sisters anymore..he just turned his back on his family and his life for Mormonism..just sad. Thanks again for all you do!


312 posted on 11/21/2011 2:54:37 PM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: Confab

a·pol·o·gist (-pl-jst)

n.
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

Aologetic's isn't a word.

Yeah, I'm anti-cause-consultant, grammar police.

313 posted on 11/21/2011 3:00:30 PM PST by delacoert
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To: PeachyKeen
Thanks again for all you do!

Nay...

Thanks be to GOD for all HE has done!

314 posted on 11/21/2011 3:44:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: delacoert

They got TICKED off, before they got KICKED off!

NAZIs, death threats and the like just aren’t given much slack around here.


315 posted on 11/21/2011 3:45:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SENTINEL

mdl.org

A Study in Scarlet by Arthur Conan Doyle has long been a joke among Mormons who have read it–so fabricated, distorted, and exaggerated that surely no one could believe any of its ludicrous claims.

Yup!

The above was found there!


316 posted on 11/21/2011 3:48:06 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Are we EVER going to create MEGO with THIS one!!

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/jbms/?vol=19&num=2&id=530


317 posted on 11/21/2011 3:50:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

MORE from MDL.org

As members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we stand with good people everywhere who are wrongly maligned because of their religious convictions.

I guess that thing in the TR questions don’t mean much to these folks:

#7

Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?


318 posted on 11/21/2011 3:53:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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mormonISM delusion continues. place marker


319 posted on 11/21/2011 4:58:01 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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