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To: TheCipher; bitt
She does have another chance. The SOS has to certify those [general election] papers.

You are right, of course. However, the lessons since 2008 are that the issue must be timely addressed. In my view, and subject to the advice of local counsel which Orly almost certainly has, that is Tuesday morning in NH and it would be to stop off at the NH AG’s office or the courthouse, or perhaps both.

Clearly, her objective has been to give the NH SOS reason to deny an apparently unqualified candidate access to the ballot and being blown off by a commission is not the end of it. It is now more apparent to me that she did timely file a written objection and one hopes she will update that writing on Monday to document the seemingly defective behavior of the Commission.

Most would probably agree the SOS will not deny access based on the public’s knowledge of a foreign father, or Minor and the subsequent cases; nor should one expect that an argument over allegedly false federal SS#'s will provide such a reason to the SOS.

However, under NH's statutory scheme the SOS does have, or ought to have, an interest in whether candidates perjure themselves when submitting nomination papers. Hopefully, Orly set out in her objection a logical argument supported by the affidavits of experts that not only has this candidate not ever produced authentic birth documents to the public but rather has resisted doing so in each of many law suits.

So the issue can be easily stated: Does a government which obligates its citizens to certify a fact under penalty of perjury have a) the right and obligation to investigate reasonably apparent violations of that obligation and b) the right and obligation to compel production of documents that cure such apparent violations?

28 posted on 11/19/2011 10:39:46 AM PST by frog in a pot (Timely recognition of your enemies is an important element of survival.)
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To: frog in a pot

The argument given by the Obama supporters is that a SOS can’t so much as blow her nose unless a law specifically gives her the command to do so, what time to do so, and prescribes penalties and a procedure to enforce penalties if she doesn’t do so.

If that’s the standard that judges will apply, then equal protection would mean the government has its hands tied if we choose to sue them over every action they take that isn’t specifically described and mandated by law. Open the door to the Senate? Where does the law say who can open the door and when? Walk over the threshold? When were any of the Congress-critters instructed to walk across the threshold? Etc.

That’s the degree of tedium we’re dealing with here. Cloward-Piven.


33 posted on 11/19/2011 6:17:51 PM PST by butterdezillion
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