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Cain Requests That Justice Elena Kagan Recuse Herself from the Supreme Court’s Obamacare Hearing
Herman Cain web site ^ | 11/17/11 | Herman Cain/JD Gordon

Posted on 11/17/2011 12:29:05 PM PST by justsaynomore

Republican presidential candidate and businessman Herman Cain today requested that Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan recuse herself from the upcoming Supreme Court hearing on Obamacare.

As a political appointee in President Obama’s Justice Department, Justice Kagan strongly advocated for the government takeover of health care and during the bill’s debate, then- Solicitor General Kagan actively supported a government-run system and sent a jubilant email to then-Justice Department colleague Laurence Tribe saying: ““I hear they have the votes, Larry!! Simply amazing.”

“I request that Justice Kagan recuse herself immediately from hearing the Obamacare case,” Cain said. “Members of the highest court in the land should be impartial, strictly follow the Constitution and should not carry water for former employers in the White House.”

According to 28 USC 455, Supreme Court justices must recuse from “any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned” and if they have at any time “expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy” while he or she “served in governmental employment.”

For More Information: J.D. Gordon, Vice President of Communications Friends of Herman Cain, Inc. media@hermancain.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bounceback; cain; comebackcain; comebackkid; frontrunner; hermanator; hermancain; obamacare; reboundman; teflonman
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To: MNJohnnie

“Going into hysterics ....”

LMAO... I don’t do hysterics, that’s your game.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 1:19:34 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012.“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: RitaOK

Mrs. Thomas is not on SCOTUS.
And last time I checked Justice Thomas is an independent thinker.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 1:21:53 PM PST by federal__reserve (Politicians fluent in Libyan situation are solely responsible for the economy on life support.)
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To: Iron Munro

” Justice Thomas has no direct involvement and has not expressed or indicated a preference for either side. “ <<<

Phone GRETA. She disagrees, as did her guest.


43 posted on 11/17/2011 1:21:59 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: justsaynomore
Can You Find The Butt Kicker In This Photo?


44 posted on 11/17/2011 1:22:54 PM PST by Iron Munro (Ben Raines For President)
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To: RitaOK
According to 28 USC 455, Supreme Court justices must recuse from “any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned” and if they have at any time “expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy” while he or she “served in governmental employment.”

I'm confused. Where does that rule invoke a "spouses clause" even when said spouse is not or has not "served in governmental employment."

You rest on the "rule of emotion" rather than the "rule of law".

45 posted on 11/17/2011 1:23:41 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: federal__reserve

Phone GRETA. She disagrees with you, as did her guest.


46 posted on 11/17/2011 1:23:41 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Phone GRETA. She disagrees with you, as did her guest.


47 posted on 11/17/2011 1:25:19 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Phone GRETA. She disagrees with you, as did her guest.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 1:25:59 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: RitaOK

Kagan was the the solicitor general and was directly involved in the legal defense on behalf of the White House. Apples and oranges. Thomas’s wife has nothing to do with this case. She’s a private person.

Cain is absolutely correct here.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 1:26:46 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: RitaOK
Phone GRETA. She disagrees, as did her guest.

It will be inrteresting to see how this develops.

Move - countermove -


50 posted on 11/17/2011 1:27:07 PM PST by Iron Munro (Ben Raines For President)
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To: RitaOK; federal__reserve

:: Phone GRETA. She disagrees with you, as did her guest ::

I don’t who you are...that -RIGHT THERE- is funny!

Bwahahhahaha

Maybe RitaOK would be more at home with the OWSies or the DUmmies.


51 posted on 11/17/2011 1:27:11 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: ilgipper

Phone GRETA. She disagrees, as did her guest.


52 posted on 11/17/2011 1:28:01 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: RitaOK

You are wrong. There is no need legally or ethically for Thomas to remove himself just because his wife is involved. Nice bashing of Cain, though.


53 posted on 11/17/2011 1:30:22 PM PST by chilepup
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To: RitaOK

Wow. The 10:00 Fox person disagrees. I guess we are all wrong. I don’t watch Greta, so I am not sure how she is establishing some sort of new precedence.


54 posted on 11/17/2011 1:31:50 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Iron Munro

” Move - countermove - “ <<<

Absolutely. What a titanic struggle ahead on every front.
I was simply surprised that Cain appeared to me as not aware of the same recusal request bubbling against Thomas. He thought he had nailed a “gimmee”, and still may not know what’s up against Thomas.


55 posted on 11/17/2011 1:34:15 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: cotton1706
If Kagan’s husband had advocated for Obamacare, I wouldn’t expect her to recuse herself if she wasn’t otherwise involved.

That federal statute that was quoted in the article, 28 USC 455, says that a justice should recuse themselves if he "...or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person...is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding..." Mrs. Thomas is head of a group lobbying against Obamacare. That could be construed as benefiting from the court striking it down.

It'd probably be best if both Kagin and Thomas recused themselves. However I don't see either one doing so.

56 posted on 11/17/2011 1:35:00 PM PST by SoJoCo
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57 posted on 11/17/2011 1:38:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: SoJoCo

” It’d probably be best if both Kagin and Thomas recused themselves. However I don’t see either one doing so. “ <<<

THAT is exactly what was said on GRETA, to my chagrin. I believe no one on this thread heard the discussion that I assumed they had. However, Cain will go silent on this when he finally becomes informed and does learn that Thomas is thought to be also questionable. Kagan is much more obvious, but given we pick nits we can depend on the Democrats to do just that against Thomas. Neither will likely recuse. Who can make them? Greta said the SC bench can not do it. I dunno.


58 posted on 11/17/2011 1:40:58 PM PST by RitaOK (Rasmussen is the polling standard who owns the record on accuracy.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Where does that rule invoke a "spouses clause" even when said spouse is not or has not "served in governmental employment."

Paragraph b clause 5, section iii. Link

Mrs. Thomas is head of an organization that may benefit if Obamacare is ruled unconstitutional.

59 posted on 11/17/2011 1:42:20 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: RitaOK



If you're thinkin like me - Let's drain the swamp in D - C...Go Cain.
60 posted on 11/17/2011 1:42:28 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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