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GERALD CELENTE: My Gold Account Was Emptied By MF Global
Business Insider ^ | Lisa Du

Posted on 11/17/2011 8:24:25 AM PST by Library Lady

Everyone's buzzing about Trends Research founder Gerald Celente's recent interview on RT America, where he railed on MF Global for taking his money and closing his positions on gold.

On RT America, Celente denounces MF Global, saying he was building up collateral in his account in order to receive gold contracts due to deliver in December. But then, he received a margin call and a broker told him his money (up to 6-figures) was with the court-appointed trustee.

Celente has every right to be angry -- he's experiencing what every MF Global client (from hog farmers to hedge fund mangers) is going through. Everyone thought they were protected by law from this kind of situation, but that obviously isn't the case.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: celente; gold; mfglobal
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Gold in the hand is worth more than gold in MF Global?
1 posted on 11/17/2011 8:24:30 AM PST by Library Lady
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To: Library Lady

Pick you broker carefully. The large, reputable ones that don’t trade much themselves are what you want.


2 posted on 11/17/2011 8:28:13 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Library Lady

Hard to sympathize with anybody who entrusted money to thuggish Jon Corzine.


3 posted on 11/17/2011 8:28:56 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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While Corzine gets off scott free.

Since laws were broken and regulations not followed, I think we need more laws and regulations.

4 posted on 11/17/2011 8:29:23 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Library Lady

I cannot believe Celente did not own “gold in hand”. Maybe he owns both and this side is a loss.

ALL of my PM is where I can get at it in less than a half hour. Any thing else would defeat the whole purpose.

Also, it will all go one of three ways:

It will be stolen
It will be used as “barter” after the real collapse.
It will pass on to someone else after I die.


5 posted on 11/17/2011 8:29:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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I read the article to mean he expected to receive the actual gold in December.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 8:33:18 AM PST by Library Lady
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To: Library Lady

ping


7 posted on 11/17/2011 8:36:55 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Since laws were broken and regulations not followed, I think we need more laws and regulations.


The law would be at my door in 2 minutes if I said what I’m thinking and wishing we need. Enough said.


8 posted on 11/17/2011 8:43:55 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Library Lady

Sorry dude. RottenToTheCorezine has it in the offshore account so he can trickle it back in under the radar in small donations to Obama’s Committee To Re-Elect. /sarc


9 posted on 11/17/2011 8:50:18 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: unkus

Needless to say,it’s a pity that Corzine survived the car accident.Could have saved a lot of people a bunch of trouble.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 8:54:40 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Library Lady

Gerald, there is no such thing as a gold account. Either you own the gold and have it physically in your possession or you own worthless paper.

Ain’t rocket science, genius.


11 posted on 11/17/2011 8:54:51 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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I thought Celente was a pretty knowledgeable guy until this came out. I heard him ranting and whining on Alex Jones yesterday. My fiancee’ and I just looked at each other and the only expression that came to mind was “dumb azz”. Who in their right mind would buy gold and not have physical control of it? Celente has been preaching the collapse of the system for a couple of years and he’s buying gold through a brokerage firm? “dumb azz”.


12 posted on 11/17/2011 8:56:31 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Corzine's very rich and powerful and connected, but none of that is going to save his ass on this one.

The people he ripped off are very rich and powerful and connected.

He should have stuck to ripping off the little people.

13 posted on 11/17/2011 8:57:36 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m surprised he didn’t see this coming.


14 posted on 11/17/2011 8:57:39 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: all the best

He didn’t entrust his money to Corzine or to MF Global.

He had it with a different broker, who (it turned out) had his account stored with MF Global.


15 posted on 11/17/2011 9:05:14 AM PST by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: agere_contra

Thanks for the info.


16 posted on 11/17/2011 9:12:43 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: agere_contra

Bet he has another name for “MF” Global.


17 posted on 11/17/2011 9:13:00 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: unkus

I imagine there is a heck of a lot of tongue biting around here as of late.


18 posted on 11/17/2011 9:13:58 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

He has said that he employs a multi faceted approach to investing in PM’s and that he does hold physical. This was merely one aspect of his overall strategy and it looks like he lost. Hard to have sympathy when he preaches this stuff every day and knowingly took a risk for part of his money for a bigger return. He is not an idiot, he just lost a bet.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 9:52:52 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Celente buys gold big time, and on the cheap. He buys futures and then builds his collateral to have it delivered. This way he pays no premium over spot cost, and usually has paid less that the spot at the of delivery.

This is a simple case of a one-time theft. Celente did not fall to an on-going scam like some folks think is going on at GLD.

Theoretically, this was a segregated account, and laws were broken. But it will be interesting to see if even minor players are charged. My money is on a financial wrist slap and no jail time (at most) for folks at Corzine's level.

20 posted on 11/17/2011 10:58:30 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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