Vattel was quoted and placed in the Congressional record in 1959.
Posted on 11/16/2011 6:31:19 PM PST by circumbendibus
A hearing is scheduled in front of the New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission on Friday to hear a complaint filed by Orly Taitz, with the apparent support of two state lawmakers, that raises allegations of fraudulent documents and fraudulent Social Security Number use on the part of Barack Obama.
The hearing is scheduled Friday at 2 p.m. in Room 307 of the New Hampshire Legislative Office Building and Taitz is encouraging the public to be present.
The state holds the first primary for presidential elections, and that is scheduled for Jan. 10, 2012.
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That was the royal ‘we’.
Vattel was quoted and placed in the Congressional record in 1959.
If you say so. This means there’s no one else but yourself to blame for the stupidity of your past and current posts. Have it your way.
Dr. Conspiracy has a knack for exposing his own stupidity. Even without the 1959 citation, he’s basically saying he can’t understand how the framers would read a passage about natural citizenship and equate it was natural-born citizenship, in spite of clear evidence that our framers translated “naturel” as “natural-born.” It’s because of how our framers used this term that the translation in the book got changed.
Dr. Conspiracy: “If you think, for example, the phrase “natural-born citizen” in the Constitution originated with John Jay, do you think he read de Vattel in the French or in the English (if he read it at all)?”
Dr. Conspire wants us to believe the Framers developed their ideas from a vacuum.
Dr. Conspiracy August 4, 2009
Well Google translator says that it’s “indigenous”. Duh.
Dr. Conspiracy
“So when the Supreme Court decided that Wong was born a citizen, they decided that he was a natural born citizen — because it’s same thing.”
By intriguing I mean I wish I could verify some of this stuff. Any of it,but I can’t.
November 21, 2011
Dear Representatives Accornero, DeLemus and Baldasaro:
I have just had a meeting with Attorney General Delaney concerning the Ballot Law Commission hearing on November 18. He is concerned over how members of the House conducted themselves during and following the hearing, as well as for the safety of a member of his office who attended the meeting in an official capacity.
I am requesting that the Chief of Protective Services, Randy Joyner, conduct an investigation of the incident and provide a written report to me. In addition, I have been informed that the Attorney General has requested that Colonel Quinn of the State Police have his office conduct a review of the incident. Please provide both Protective Services and the State Police your full cooperation and candor should they contact you. I am deferring any meeting concerning the issues underlying the November 18 hearing or the hearing itself until these reviews are completed.
Sincerely,
William L. O’Brien
Speaker of the House
cc: Attorney General Michael A. Delaney
Deputy Attorney General Ann Rice
House Majority Leader David J. Bettencourt
Colonel Robert L. Quinn, Director of State Police
Chief of Staff Robert D. Mead
House Clerk Karen O. Wadsworth
Chief of Protective Services Randy Joyner
Using the investigation of the alleged threat as a pretext for putting off a hearing on Obama’s eligibility doesn't seem appropriate. Just an excuse for more foot-dragging.
standing
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/11/new-hampshire-representatives-fire-back.html
Full article by Matthew Spolar is in Nov 22 'Concord Monitor' but I cannot sign in. The reporterette who interviewed you never gave you any ink. :(
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Majority Leader DJ Bettencourt, a Salem Republican, center, talks with Speaker Bill O’Brien and Rep. Peter Silva, a Nashua Republican and majority whip, during a lunch recess at the State House on Wednesday, May 4, 2011.Purchase photo reprints at PhotoExtra »
By Matthew Spolar / Monitor staff
November 22, 2011
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As House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt seeks to distance his Republican caucus from the so-called “birther” movement, House Speaker Bill O’Brien is scheduled to meet today with a group of lawmakers angered by the state’s decision not to remove President Obama from the primary ballot over renewed questions about his citizenship.
Over the weekend, Bettencourt sent an email to Orly Taitz, a California lawyer who challenged Obama’s eligibility last week before the state Ballot Law Commission by alleging the incumbent president is using a fake birth certificate and Social Security number. The commission unanimously rejected the complaint, which resulted in state representatives and other attendees shouting their displeasure at the five-member panel.
Bettencourt said the response was “unbecoming of any legitimate political dialogue, nevermind one as ridiculous as the continued obsession over President Obama’s birth place.”
“I have spoken to the Representatives who were present and expressed to them my strong desire that they immediately disassociate themselves from you and this folly,” Bettencourt wrote to Taitz, a message that was copied to the House Republican caucus.
Bettencourt said he decided to write Taitz after she sent O’Brien a letter demanding the removal of Secretary of State Bill Gardner for “egregious elections fraud, aiding and abetting fraud, forgery and possibly treason.” The Republican from Salem said Gardner is “a New Hampshire treasure who has worked tirelessly for Granite Staters and the (preservation) of our special political culture.”
“It takes an extraordinary circumstance for me to bother taking time to respond to the gobbledygook that is the ‘birther’ movement,” Bettencourt wrote. “However, your call on House leadership to begin the process of removing Secretary of State Bill Gardner calls for such response.”
Following the commission’s decision Friday, a group of House members requested a meeting with O’Brien to discuss their frustration over the board’s dismissal of their complaint. Nine Republican state representatives have signed on to the complaint challenging Obama’s candidacy in the Democratic primary: Harry Accornero of Laconia, Al Baldasaro of Londonderry, Susan DeLemus of Rochester, Laurie Pettengill of Glen, Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, William Tobin of Sanbornton, Moe Villeneuve of Bedford and Lucien and Carol Vita of Middleton.
O’Brien is scheduled to meet with the legislators in his State House office at 1 p.m. House Policy Director Greg Moore said O’Brien’s job entails listening to the concerns of all 400 members of the New Hampshire House.
“Members can come in at any time they want and sit down with him,” Moore said. “He’ll give them a chance to come in and make their case.”
Rappaport and Accornero denied in interviews yesterday that they are true “birthers,” a term some view as pejorative that has been used to describe doubters of Obama’s American citizenship. However, both said Obama hasn’t definitively proved his citizenship despite releasing a long-form Hawaiian birth certificate earlier this year.
“What I’ve said repeatedly is I want an answer,” Rappaport said. “The birth certificate that was released, that I saw at least, was a forgery. I can say that with complete confidence.”
Accornero said he is more concerned with Taitz’s claim that Obama’s Social Security number was never assigned to him.
“When you tie the two together, you start questioning everything,” Accornero said. “My main concern in this whole thing is to make sure that he was the person he says he was.”
Rappaport said he was “not happy” about Bettencourt’s email. Accornero said if Bettencourt wants to dismiss his concerns, “that’s his problem.”
“D.J. can think it’s an embarrassment, but I’m sorry - I have a right to speak out,” Accornero said. “I didn’t give my power of attorney over to D.J. or the state of New Hampshire to speak out on national issues.”
Accornero said he would be “remiss in my duty as a legislator” not to continue to question Obama’s eligibility to seek the presidency. He hopes O’Brien agrees with his group’s desire for further investigation into the Obama case, but he also wants to the state to adopt a more aggressive policy for investigating elections law complaints so future concerns like his don’t get “swept under the rug.”
“I would be just as insistent if it was for Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney,” he said.
Baldasaro, chairman of the House Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs committee, said he hadn’t seen Bettencourt’s email.
“Any reaction I have, I’ll talk to him face-to-face about it,” Baldasaro said.
In a statement last week, New Hampshire Democratic Party spokesman Harrell Kirstein criticized Taitz for “coming to our state to bring up ridiculous old mistruths about the President.”
“Rather than focus on issues that matter to American workers, like creating jobs and strengthening the middle class, the GOP continue to push an extreme right wing agenda that is completely out of touch with voters,” Kirstein said.
Bettencourt said in an interview yesterday that House Republicans should be concentrating on other matters.
“I think it’s critically important that the caucus focus on the issues that are on the minds of Granite Staters and that they not clog up the lines of communication to the public on the hard work we are doing to improve New Hampshire’s economy and get people back to work,” Bettencourt said.
Taitz criticized Bettencourt yesterday as a “corrupt politician.”
“He’s just an establishment puppet who is told he’s not allowed to talk about certain issues,” she said.
Taitz said she believes there was an agreement between leading Republicans and Democrats during the 2008 presidential election that neither side would question the constitutional eligibility of the opposing candidate. (Republican John McCain has been determined, like Obama, to be a natural-born American citizen despite being born in the Panama Canal Zone where his father, a naval officer, was stationed.)
“I think there was a deal made at the top,” she said.
In Bettencourt’s email, he told Taitz that if the secretary of state were to entertain her request that Obama be taken off the ballot, “he would be putting New Hampshire’s ‘First in the Nation’ Primary in grave danger.”
“Please, Dr. Taitz, go away and leave New Hampshire alone,” he wrote.
(Matthew Spolar can be reached at 369-3309 or mspolar@cmonitor.com.)
No she, Maddie Hanna, didn’t. And I wrote to the editor, comment 181, and there pared it down to 250 words. But as of right this minute it has not been published. I copied that at comment 237.
There is a bill pending for candidates to offer paperwork to prove eligibility. I found the number on the list of bills for 2012 but I am unable to find the text of the bill. I have emailed the bill’s sponsor this morning to update me on that. Once I have an update I will probably start a new thread for that.
“Taitz wrote:My response to the corrupt, treasonous RINO Republican majority leader of NH House of Representatives, D. J. Betancourt
Mr. Betancourt, my appearance before the committee was not an outburst, but a testimony with an undeniable proof of Barack Obama using a stolen Social Security number, forged birth certificate, committing elections fraud and treason. Your answer shows that you are another corrupt and dirty politician, who is maliciously disregarding the truth and the Constitution of this nation, who needs to be removed from the position of the Republican majority leader and who should be and will be tried for treason against this nation together with other corrupt politicians who put a complete fraud and a criminal without any valid US identification papers in the White House.”
We greatly appreciate your onsite reporting. Commander Kirchner has also written a letter to the State Legislature on the ballot eligibility issue. I wrote to thank him on Facebook but did not receive a reply.
Please be sure to ping me on any new threads related to this topic. Again, thank you!
Thanks also for post 254...Article in Monitor.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/11/21/cdr-kerchner-pounds-new-hampshire-legislator-about-obamas-eligibility/
Obviously, she’s a “racist”... :)
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