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Lesbian couple mulls action against Christian wedding cake baker
Life Site News ^ | November 16, 2011 | KATHLEEN GILBERT

Posted on 11/16/2011 2:07:21 PM PST by NYer

Victoria Childress

DES MOINES, Iowa, November 15, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An Iowa baker who politely declined to provide a wedding cake for two lesbians based on her Christian values may face legal action from the couple.

Same-sex “marriage” was legalized in Iowa in 2009 by the state Supreme Court, and a 2007 state civil rights act disallows discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation in matters of employment, education, housing, and public accommodation.

On Tuesday KCCI 8 Des Moines interviewed Trina Vodraska and Janelle Sievers, who said they were “shocked” when a local wedding cake business owner declined to provide the confection for their ceremony.

“It was degrading, you know, it was like she chastised us for wanting to do business with her,” said Vodraska.

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Victoria Childress, who runs the business from her home, said she told the couple that she was unable to give them a cake based on her Christian convictions. Both she and the couple say the conversation was cordial.

“I didn’t do the cake because of my convictions for their lifestyle. It is my right as a business owner. It is my right, and it’s not to discriminate against them,” said Childress.

“It’s not so much to do with them, as it’s to do with me, and my walk with God and what I will answer (to) him for,” she added.

“They thanked me for being honest with them. They were very pleasant. I did not belittle them, I did not speak rudely to them. There were no condescending remarks made, nothing.”

The news station reports that the couple is unsure whether to file a civil rights complaint with the state. However, the couple has since reportedly released a statement calling Childress a “bigot,” and the baker says she has been deluged with hate mail that she has stopped reading.

“It’s really hard to read things like that,” she told FOX News. “I’m a pretty quiet, soft-spoken person. But when I stand up for my convictions against things, I’m very strong when it comes to that.”

Christian businesses in America, including reception site owners and photographers declining to service homosexual couples, have routinely been targeted for lawsuits and harrassment in states that have legalized same-sex “marriage” or civil unions. Often the complaints spread through media, particularly gay blogs, where gay rights supporters are encouraged to keep up pressure on the offenders.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: homonaziagenda; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homopsychos; homosexualagenda; lesbian; lesbonazi; lesbonaziagenda; lesbopsychoagenda; lesbopsychos; moralabsolutes; ssm; wedding
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To: NYer

Victoria: go to the grocery store... buy two boxes of betty crocker cake mix and premade frosting... bake the cake and apply the icing... charge them $500.


41 posted on 11/16/2011 3:06:33 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Jeff Head

Having that sign is what spared you the agony of a frivolous lawsuit. Kudos and thanks for the post and ping.


42 posted on 11/16/2011 3:09:56 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

As a wedding cake baker I have pondered this very situation. My decision, should I ever face it, will be to jack my price up way high, (I have no fixed prices so I can get away with it) and tell them that any one I bake a cake for I spend a lot of time praying for, that they will meet the maker of the universe and get their lives in order.


43 posted on 11/16/2011 3:11:17 PM PST by Grammy
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To: Grammy

See my post 15 for another way to get past it.


44 posted on 11/16/2011 3:20:13 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: stormer
Victoria Childress, who runs the business from her home...

Pretty sure this eliminates the argument of public accommodation since she is simply providing a commodity, not accommodation.

45 posted on 11/16/2011 3:20:53 PM PST by conservonator (God between us and the devil!)
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To: NYer

The people voted for one man, one woman. A judge decided to let homos marry. The left doesn’t put up with this, why do we? God bless this woman for doing what’s right.


46 posted on 11/16/2011 3:26:28 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: SkyDancer

Does this mean shirtless and shoeless people can sue a restaurant for refusing them service?

If a person refuses service due to a religious conviction, how can a legitimate court deny that persons freedom of religion?


47 posted on 11/16/2011 3:26:45 PM PST by Know et al (The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.)
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To: bigbob

ex- lax


48 posted on 11/16/2011 3:33:06 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: stevio
This sounds very similar to a case a while back in New Mexico where some homosexuals demanded that a photographer shoot photos for them for some event.

So thoughtless of James Madison to leave "freedom of religion" out of the Bill of Rights.

49 posted on 11/16/2011 3:33:57 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MrB

The whole point of “gay rights” is to punish Christians for their beliefs.

And to Destroy the Church .


50 posted on 11/16/2011 3:35:34 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: steveo

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51 posted on 11/16/2011 4:11:52 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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Even if you are correct legally (but baking cakes in her home doesn't sound like "providing accomodation" to me), this reminds me of Rosa Parks. It was illegal for her to sit in the front of the bus but she did it anyway. What's right can be much more important that what's deemed illegal.

52 posted on 11/16/2011 7:48:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: NYer

From a legal standpoint, could the baker make the cake but use salt instead of sugar? Or put Bible verses condemning homosexuality and advocating marriage between a man and a woman on the cake? Would that qualify as “discrimination”?


53 posted on 11/16/2011 8:18:13 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: 353FMG

I know a Catholic priest who has laughed about this as he has said he would happily die before ever doing such a thing.

He was not kidding in the least.


54 posted on 11/16/2011 9:49:08 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: NYer

shouldn’t the first amendment, i.e. freedom of religion trump two homosexuals >mental disorder> in this case and any other case?

YES IT SHOULD


55 posted on 11/17/2011 4:38:07 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: MrB

homosexuals did this two Catholic charities too.

Two mentally disturbed homo’s said they wanted to play family so they went to get a kid.
Of course they chose Catholic charities knowing full well they would be refused and then they sued yet again thus closing down the adoption agency and therefore kids losing out due to the selfish disturbed acts of those homosexuals


56 posted on 11/17/2011 4:40:21 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: MrB
the whole point of “gay rights” is to punish Christians for their beliefs.

Absolutely true. I call it "gay conquest."

57 posted on 11/17/2011 4:42:45 AM PST by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: jakerobins

maybe it is time for normal couples to go into their places and then sue when they refuse us.

Their websites have many places listed in various towns and cities where businesses are owned by queers.
Infact on some of their websites they have and encouraged queers to move into certain towns just to push laws to advance their agenda.

They really are sick and it takes all of us to stand up to their radical mental perverted agenda


58 posted on 11/17/2011 4:43:17 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: MrB

It is in some states, from a legal perspective. I doubt Iowa is one of them.


59 posted on 11/17/2011 4:44:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: stormer
"Gender preference" isn't a protected class, at least not now, in federal law.

What if a couple of leather S&M types came in and asked her to do cakes in the exact semblance of male and female genitalia, or with whips and torture depicted on top? Are you saying she'd have to do these as well?

60 posted on 11/17/2011 4:46:41 AM PST by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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