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To: Anima Mundi

Years ago, in the ‘90’s, I was hired as a plant manager. At that time, when the sexual harassment thingie was in full swing, all managers at this company had to go to a 2 day seminar on sexual harassment in the workplace. The first day was instructed by a lawyer that prosecutes sexual harassment claims. The second day by an attorney that defends. Here is the nut and shell. If you walk into your place of business, and just look in the direction of a woman, that can be considered sexual harassment. In other words, this is nothing but a payday for women, and a way to control the “Evil Man”... I do not believe ANY claims of sexual harassment, unless accompanied by audio or video proof of such... witnesses do not count, as birds of a feather flock together ( and yes, I was accused... but I had several witnesses to confirm my story, and the pregnant woman making the false claim was not fired )


21 posted on 11/16/2011 8:57:23 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

And that explains why jobs are flying out to Asia where there is no such thing as sexual harassment & Gloria Allred type lawyers. In fact we have 10 times the lawyers per capita than Japan, and 100 times more than China.

Unless tort reform is enacted, forget about getting those jobs back. We direly need a system like some other countries where id the plaintiff loses, they pay for the defendant’s legal costs.


24 posted on 11/16/2011 9:06:00 AM PST by federal__reserve (Obama Vs Perry presidential debates are my worst nightmare! Those will get huge audiences.)
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To: joe fonebone

Some women can’t distinguish between a man just being friendly and a man being inappropriate it seems. Like those mystery illnesses that get hyped up in the media and then everybody thinks they “have it”, harassment was the affliction du jour for those who enjoy being victims who are somehow owed compensation and apologies. SO TIRED of this sort of stuff!


28 posted on 11/16/2011 9:15:14 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you build it, they will come and take it away from you..)
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To: joe fonebone

Joe, I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’m a woman and have dealt with comments, jestures, whatever @ work, but I chose to ignore and/or handle on my own. I have never complained to HR even once. Not into that.

One thing I’ve noticed is the women who claim sexual harrassment are normally not the “best looking things” in the office. Me thinks they WISH they could get attention, but they don’t ;)

Of course, they are always those who are so uptight they’d sue the wind for blowing up their skirt if they could.


34 posted on 11/16/2011 9:38:20 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: joe fonebone
and yes, I was accused... but I had several witnesses to confirm my story, and the pregnant woman making the false claim was not fired )

I, too was charged with sexual harassment by a fat, 8 month pregnant, bimbo with a face that looked like Helen Thomas with 2 teeth.

Even Laz wouldn't have hit it.

If my memory is correct, she ended up with about $60 K {from the company} and it was just a payoff to put it behind us.

I never said or did anything to that pig and she was a barnyard hog root'en in the slop for a few bucks.

I've hated those BS laws ever since.

36 posted on 11/16/2011 9:44:38 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: joe fonebone
We had the same type of crap going during the late 1990s at the Fire Department that I work for. Several people left and collected good sized settlements for being "harassed". I knew and still know nearly everyone involved and I think would still be considered a neutral party by nearly all. I actually liked and got along with the persons who made the complaints. A couple actually had their feelings hurt. Others were opportunists who didn't like the work or were not capable of performing the job and wanted a way out.

Not all of the details in the following tale are included to protect the guilty and hopefully not give them any more grounds to sue: One gal never cleaned up after herself and left her dirty underwear all over the station to be found by her own coworkers and people working on other shifts. Someone finally soaked a pair of her panties and a bra in water and put them in the freezer and left her a note telling her where she could find them. She reported this as sexual harassment, found an attorney and got a few months off with pay while the matter was being “investigated”.

When she returned she transferred to our station. At our station she burned some rice and threw the rice and the pan out in the front yard and left them both. When the station captain found the mess, he cleaned up most of it, but left a note telling her to clean the pan. When she returned to work, she threw the pan in the dumpster. Someone else retrieved the pan from the dumpster and left a note for the station captain. She received an oral reprimand. She went back to her attorney and claimed that she was being retaliated against.

The city settled out of court. The entire matter is sealed and none of the parties involved are allowed to talk about it. I was told by another woman on the department who was involved and knew the details... that person making the complaint received a six figure settlement, including money for retraining her for another profession. Several persons including the captain who gave her an oral reprimand were disciplined.

I got along with this person and her husband who was also on the fire department at the time. I have seen them several times at gatherings since, and we are on friendly terms. He actually presents himself as a conservative. He has a son from his first marriage who is in the military who he is very proud of. I would not be surprised if he posts on FreeRepublic. He could probably share more relevant details. But this is a fairly typical example of the sexual harassment claims that I am aware of. She didn't like the work and wanted out. She found a way to get out with a fairly significant “severance” package.

My wife worked for many years at retirement centers and nursing homes at a supervisory level. She worked with many women who went from job to job after using sex to get favors from the men in charge. Then when they were ready to move on they would make a claim and get a large settlement. They were openly flirtatious and made themselves available for sex with their supervisors. Some of them were very nice to my wife and actually did good work. Some of the men who had sex with them didn't face any allegations and some of the men who rebuffed their advances were the ones who got in trouble. There is no rhyme or reason as to how these situations work out.

43 posted on 11/16/2011 10:20:51 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: joe fonebone

They probably didn’t fire her because she was pregnant. That’s a WHOLE other can of worms.

These freaks have so many cans of crap, we the normal people have to walk through life stepping over the “land mines”.

As a girl, I can get away with a lot more than my fellow fellas. I do feel bad for you guys.

If things were reversed, my boss would have already filed sexual harassment charges against me and another co-worker. Luckily, we all have a great sense of humor.....we just can’t do it in front of other co-workers.


49 posted on 11/16/2011 10:46:25 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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