Posted on 11/11/2011 5:56:26 AM PST by TBBT
I think I understand why the audience at Wednesdays CNBC debate booed Maria Bartiromos question to Herman Cain about sexual-harassment allegations. They dont believe there is any truth to them. They suspect, along with the candidate, that the women concerned are part of a liberal lynch mob out to smear another strong, conservative, black man. They know that accusations of sexual harassment are often nebulous and PC. If I guess correctly, they also believe with considerable justification that the press is less interested in the dry details of policy than in salacious tales of misbehavior. They resent being dragged into another smutty distraction.
Yes, but. As someone who was well-disposed toward Herman Cain as a public figure (if not as a potential president), I cannot help recalling the response of Democrats to revelations about Bill Clinton. We know all about it, one exasperated reader wrote to Newsweek magazine, and WE DONT CARE. In fact, the majority of Americans did not care and it was not our finest moment as a nation. Liberals, who professed to be appalled by the one accusation against Clarence Thomas (just one non-contemporaneous accusation not four or five), dismissed Bill Clintons behavior as no big deal. Stuart Taylor noted at the time that even if everything Anita Hill said about Clarence Thomas were true, it would not be nearly as serious as the allegations against Bill Clinton. Conservatives argued at the time that character mattered. Liberals replied, in effect, that it didnt...
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Which lie?
>> I can’t help but think that listening the Rush, Hannity, and Levin over the last few days has smacked a little too much of Lanny Davis and James Carville during he Clinton fiasco. >>
OMG that’s an awful analysis. Clinton’s behavior was a life time pattern with evidence - and it ended up that all the charges were in fact true. Cain, if we are to believe these charges - has been a gentleman for all 47 years of his adult life (he’s 65) except for these wild 2.5 years at the NRA. And amazingly, he kept falling for women with connections to Chicago.
What a damned coincidence! /s
I’ve spent a good deal of my career working with people in the trade associations and it’s a special world. I’ve sat through 15 years of meetings, conventions, seminars, dinners, luncheons listening to them and forming my opinions.
I Think of it as mini political structures with people particularly over educated, middle-aged, uptight single women with few marketable skills clawing at each other and everyone to get the coveted VP/Director positions. And if one is not available, dagnabit, they make the association form one.
They are small bitter women that live to take offense at everyone and everything that they feel might stand in the way of them getting the recognition they want. They are an entitled class of government wannabees that were hosed over by powerful man after powerful man because they always misplaced their trust in the guy they felt could help them get ahead.
These harpies are no different. They didn’t get what they wanted and took it out on someone. They’re just jaded people looking to blame someone else for their own bad personal decisions.
On a side note, it appears that Michael Savage was the only one who called the incident with the french clown correctly.
Why didn't this come up when Cain ran for President in 2000? Why didn't it come up when he ran for the Senate in 2004? Why only now?
It stinks and anyone with a bit of critical thinking and skepticism can see it....
I remember back when the Redcoats ran things here in the Colonies.
They were the original big-government statists in America.
Remember how the eventual contest played out?
British soldiers dressed up in bright red, stood in lines in the middle of the street and played by the rules.
Americans didn’t use those rules, Americans played to win.
How’d that work out for the British?
Do you know the actual circumstances of the confidentiality agreement?
LOL!
Sklar is gone!
That’s a perfect description of the trade association world. It’s like a minor league of politics. Same with Chamber of Commerce world too.
The question is, who recruited these women, and fed them the script to use?
The talk radio people you are referencing all believe Cain to be innocent and the charges bogus. They (and I) see this as a Clarence Thomas redux, not a Bill Clinton moment.
Also, knowing what we know about the slickster, it is likely that all his defenders knew he was guilty. Gennifer Flowers even had recorded conversations with B.J.; but the press dismissed them because Flowers played an edited version of specific conversations. The press ran with the meme that the "tapes were doctored", and ignored it.
They believe we're so racists, if we heard one of ours assaulted a woman - especially a black man assulting a white woman - we'd be outraged!! We'd take Cain, a black man (racists) and hang him up for what he's done (puritins).
They thought we'd freak and take him out so they didn't have to rock the "race" boat themselves.
Don’t you rewrite History. Clinton admitted the Gennifer Flowers affair even before he was elected in 1992. He almost was dead in the water when the Gennifer Flowers story broke late in 1991.
So we had proof, not just accusation, about Clinton.
Excellent point which bears repeating. It is time to confront the evil Dem Machine once and for all.
“If we are looking for the PERFECT candidate...”
The PERFECT candidate died on a cross 2000 years ago. He will come one of these days to establish ‘one world’ rule. He is my Lord and Savior, Yeshua, Jesus the Christ.
There is a big difference between making a pass (not saying he did) and rape. I think the accusers thus far are full of you know what. This is obviously political, just another Marxist smear campaign.
Tapes that many said had been altered, I would add. I believed them, but many did not. No, the only bonafide, unassailable proof was that blue dress. After that, there could be no doubt. Until then, Clinton’s denials were accepted as truth by almost everyone on the Democrat side, and even by some conservatives. (Not a lot of them, thankfully.)
If it is a made up attack on him with no truth behind it; that is reprehensible.
This garbage heap needs to be dug into quickly, and the truth needs to come out. Whatever it is.
But if he did this stuff; I am not going to excuse it just because he is a conservative.
We were all disgusted that Bill Clinton got a pass on all the garbage he did. His supporters were disgraceful to excuse his behavior. Yes the behavior alleged here isn't the same, but if any of it is true; he isn't qualified to be President.
If Cain did this stuff; and he gets the nomination; it will hurt the conservative movement in the long run.
You are dismissing an important part of this. The accusations against Cain were made, asceeded to and settled with a payoff before anyone ever thought of Herman Cain as a Presidential candidate. Furthermore, he, Cain, initially denied any knowledge of the matter.
How many people have you ever heard to say that “they never dreamed” their next door neighbor, boss or close friend” could have committed sexual crimes? In fact, most sexual predators are extremely well spoken of by their close associates. They don’t come with a notice on their foreheads.
The rights of Cain’s accusers will be brushed off just like the victims involved in the recent football scandal. Character involves not only what you do yourself, but what you will tolerate in others. Most of the comments here seem to imply that, even if Cain did what he’s accused of it isn’t so bad. There’s always someone who committed worse acts to which he can be compared.
If Cain’s denial of any such occurrances of which he is accused is enough for you, then so should Bill Clinton’s and Anthony Weiner’s denials have been accepted at face value and no further questions should have been asked.
It’s too bad that all of us have to live with the consequences when the majority decides to be blinded by charisma and smooth talking. We’ve been doing that for the past three years and it looks like we’ll be doing it again.
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