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Anyone know how much the bill would be from just one charge? I'm trying to figure out the price of saving the planet.
1 posted on 11/11/2011 4:51:28 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I own Duke Energy stock. Maybe I need to take a hard look at that outfit.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 4:55:43 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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after a house fire in Mooresville last month.

So electric cars increase global warming?

3 posted on 11/11/2011 4:56:47 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Libloather

Another green idea that goes belly up.


5 posted on 11/11/2011 4:58:35 AM PST by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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I always laugh about the liberals embrace of electric cars.

The car batteries need to be re-charged, and the electricity to re-charge these batteries often comes from coal fired power plants. So arguably, if we had millions of electric cars on the road, we would need to sharply increase generation from fossil fuel power plants.

Have any liberals calculated the carbon footprint of re-charging electric cars???

Or do liberals think we can generate enough power from solar, windmills, and ocean waves????

Do liberals know where electricity comes from? I think they over simplify this issue. Yes, an electric car itself operates pollution free, but its power has to be generated somehow.


6 posted on 11/11/2011 5:01:21 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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I heard this on Rush’s show yesterday and laughed my butt off when I heard it...


8 posted on 11/11/2011 5:01:46 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Libloather

So, If you can’t recharge your electric car, what you have is an expensive paperweight!


9 posted on 11/11/2011 5:01:48 AM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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The Leaf has a 80-kW motor and 24-kwh battery. The voltage is 440V.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 5:02:27 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Libloather

It’s supposed to be just a couple of bucks.


16 posted on 11/11/2011 5:08:18 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Libloather

It’s supposed to be just a couple of bucks.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 5:08:22 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Libloather

Duke Energy in Charlotte is largely nuclear powered. Green energy!


19 posted on 11/11/2011 5:09:55 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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It’s likely that simple economics, and free markets, will eventually lead to widespread use of electric vehicles.

But not now. The batteries are too inefficient. Too heavy. Too expensive, and the cost of charging them is not low enough to overcome consumer inertia.

A while back I did see online where a guy in a sunny part of the country in fact drives an electric SUV (An Escape, or some such) he charges from a solar array on his roof. In effect he drives free.

If one disregards the $40,000 or so he paid for all that solar panel hardware. And the cost of the battery-powered SUV.

Fact is, it’s a large array of solar panels, for a pretty small job. He can’t take the Array with him obviously, so he’s trapped within the radius of 1/2 his battery capacity.

Not to mention, unless he works graveyard shift, he needs to drive his car, during the time of day, it would most efficiently recharge from the solar panels. Most solar systems use panels to charge batteries during the day, which then run lights and appliances round the clock.

With an electric car, what’s the approach? Solar panel array charges a battery, which then ... charges another battery? Not very efficient.

It’s not so much that it doesn’t make sense to use electric power. It’s just that the technology is still in its infancy.

The market will drive all alternative sources of power, as the sources of power are ready.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 5:13:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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example: Nissan.Leaf, 24kWhr battery, @10¢/kWhr = $2.40 which is good for 100 mi. = 2.4¢ per mile, but it takes 8 hours to recharge, which is why you need a home charger.


25 posted on 11/11/2011 5:18:42 AM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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Duke Power holds a unique place in history. It was the Griggs vs Duke Power decision that made testing applicants for IQ etc. illegal.. It's why the college degree now replaces aptitude testing.
28 posted on 11/11/2011 5:21:32 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The burning of a modest size American single family home releases the equivalent of an acre of trees. Better buy some offsets along with your Chevy Volt.


43 posted on 11/11/2011 6:01:00 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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I’m hoping there’ll be lot’sa charging units installed in and around the 2012 DNC Convention being held in Charlotte.


44 posted on 11/11/2011 6:01:53 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: Libloather

Saving the planet by burning it down.


45 posted on 11/11/2011 6:02:01 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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Has anyone even SEEN a comprehensive study comparing electric bills before and after the regular use of one of these vehicles and how it compares to the cost of fueling a conventional vehicle?

It's like it's being kept secret.

47 posted on 11/11/2011 6:04:17 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Do Electric car owners leave their headlights off at night to save battery? Do Electric car owners leave their windshield wipers off in the rain to save battery? Do Electric car owners refuse to hit the brakes so the brake lights don’t come on to save battery? Do Electric car owners refuse to use a turn signal to save battery? Do Electric car owners not run their heater in the winter to save battery? Do Electric car owners not run the A/C in the summer to save battery? Do Electric car owners not have a radio/CD player in the car to save battery? Do Electric car owners come to visit & ask to plug their car in at your house to use your electric for "Free"? Just asking!
53 posted on 11/11/2011 6:21:10 AM PST by bigiron
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HAHAHAHA....classic....

Now these people own an overprices POS electirc car, and they can't use the necessary technology to charge it...

I love it..

81 posted on 11/11/2011 1:33:55 PM PST by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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