Posted on 11/10/2011 11:55:39 AM PST by Colofornian
Edited on 11/10/2011 12:01:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Mike McQueary, one of the central figures in the burgeoning child sex abuse scandal at Penn State, will remain receivers coach Saturday when the Nittany Lions play their final home game of the season.
Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley, who was appointed Penn State interim coach in the wake of a shakeup that has claimed the jobs of Joe Paterno and other university leaders, said Thursday it will be a "game-time decision" whether McQueary will coach from the sideline or the press box against No. 19 Nebraska.
(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...
Good point. I hadn't considered that. They'll want somebody to pickup the slack before he can leave.
All this argues for a 2-year shutdown of the football program. I was reluctant to go that far if only for the fact that the football program underwrites the entire athletic department. But hey, PSU is going to have to suffer financially. This is just another area.
Y’know. I’m coming around to dfwgator’s point that the program needs to be shutdown. It’s taken me a day to realize all the ramifications of this scandal, and it seems to me that there’s just no way. Kudo’s to dfwgator for getting it right so quickly.
Could someone tell me exactly what McQueary told Joe Paterno about the incident in question.
Colin Cowherd even said on his show yesterday, why not pull a fire alarm? Make a bunch of noise, let Sandusky know he was there and saw what happened. Get him to stop. The whole thing just repulses me. I don’t know how he lives with himself.
We're not going to know that until the trial, or somebody talks (& risks legal sanction). Only 3 people know for sure: Joe, McQueary and McQueary's father (who was present that Saturday morning meeting with Joe Paterno after the 2002 incident).
When McQueary gets cut loose by PSU he or his father might just decided to speak.
Yes he told Paterno when he was a GA and then later received a Penn State coaching position.
If what you say is true it seems that a lot of uninformed people have jumped to conclusions about a man who for many years has built quite a reputation.
A possibility I will admit. But I think the 2 most likely things are:
1) Joe was told exactly what happened. In which case Paterno perjured himself;
2) Or McQueary was indeed vague, as Joe stated. Given what Paterno already knew of the '98 incident he should still have involved law enforcement immediately.
#2 might keep Joe out of legal trouble... barely. But public condemnation is still warranted. Joe Paterno will not be vindicated when this is over.
I am not defending any of the coverup. BUT, the person JoePa reported this to WAS the head of the PSU police. And they are not a run of the mill community college rent a cop. They are full fledged cops.
I like what Joe Friday used to say “just the facts “.
You might think that, but the Sr. VP Finance (Shultz) was merely the administrator responsible for the campus police. He was not a cop, and did not exercise operational control of the department.
As a poster pointed out yesterday, it's a little like reporting a crime to Barak Obama and assuming that he informed the FBI.
Incidentally, the AD (Curley) was also nominally under the Sr. VP of Finance. So Shultz was between the university president & the athletic department. That is why he was involved, primarily.
Keep your powder dry.
Well, Tallguy is partially right. We, the public don't know most of it. But he is misrepresenting the facts if he thinks the Attorney General doesn't know enough.
It's not like JoePa hasn't testified yet. He has. He went before a Grand Jury. What you say before a Grand Jury can get you up on charges of perjury...like what is happening with the other two Penn State officials.
And even we have a good glimpse into what McQueary told Paterno from the Grand Jury presentment...I quote p. 7:
"...the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home, where he reported what he had seen. Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant's report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley (‘Curley’), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate supervisor, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."
What I find truly disgraceful among some is that they are trying to obscure what Paterno told the Grand Jury. ESPN articles, which many are now referencing, cite an unnamed "source" who says Paterno wasn't sure if McQueary was referencing "fondling" or "horseplay."
#1 Paterno ALREADY told the Grand Jury it was "doing something of a sexual nature". Too bad, Joe. Your transcript before the Grand Jury is "in the books."
#2 Even if JoePa wants to defend pedophile Sandusky and downgrade the shower activity from "only" child-rape to generic child sexual abuse, how does sexual abuse minus rape-penetration make it any less sexual abuse, anyway? Fondling is still a felony!
#3 From that point in early March 2002, McQueary advanced under Paterno from grad asst to wide receivers coach and head of recruiting. What? People don't think all the intervening years from that first Saturday in March that Paterno couldn't have "clarified" with McQueary what he saw that night???
It's the obvious reality of #3 alone that makes it so plain that when people deify a personality, they will go to ANY and ALL lengths to deceive, parse, obscure, and justify the unjustifiable inactions of people they place too high on their pedestal!
Pedophile cover-up apologists are disgusting and revolting!
So women are to blame or this mess involving men?
“Any assertive act on the part of a boy is considered to be deviant by the government school bureaucracy, and is dealt with harshly, usually with counselors/psychiatrists and pharmaceutical assaults.
Boys are trained to shut up and do as they are told, or they suffer severe academic and social consequences.”
Uh, boys have been beaten, whipped, smacked, cracked, and swatted for centuries in school for misbehaving, speaking up, not reciting lessons fast enough, and heck, even fidgeting during school. All common boy behaviors that have never, ever been tolerated in school.
Now they drug them.
That's never happened before.
McQueery is getting absolutely buried in the local media, both the newspapers and talk radio. Buried. NO WAY does he show his face on the Penn State sidelines (or any other sidelines) ever again. Take that to the bank.
By the way, check out Michael Smerconish's column in today's Philadelphia Inquirer if you can.
It’s going to be an ugly scene on Saturday, the game should be cancelled...but hey, the game is going to get huge ratings for ABC/ESPN....just surprised they didn’t move the game to primetime.
Relegated to the pressbox then?
I think he HAS to work...
I don't think they can touch his job short-term wise 'cause he's probably agreed to turn state's evidence as a key witness vs. Curley, Schultz and perhaps Spanier, too.
He'll probably finish out these 3 games and be gone...likely voluntarily...he knows whoever the new coach is will bring in a new WR coach & head of recruiting anyway.
But medicating is still a way of suppressing “male” behavior, just like beatings, right? So how is one worse or better than the other?
And how is the Penn State crap the fault of women? I missed the part where a woman was found sodomizing a 10 year old boy in a shower at the school.
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