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Democrats want war savings to fund new stimulus package
The Hill ^ | 11/10/11 10:43 AM ET | Erik Wasson and Julian Pecquet

Posted on 11/10/2011 10:19:11 AM PST by BradtotheBone

Democrats on the supercommittee have proposed that the savings from the end of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan be used to pay for a new stimulus package, according to a summary of the $2.3 trillion plan obtained by The Hill.

The latest offer from Democrats on the deficit panel, made Monday night to their Republican counterparts, would use some of the war savings to help pay for spending on infrastructure.

The budget savings from ending the wars are estimated to total around $1 trillion over a decade, according to an estimate in July from the Congressional Budget Office.

The plan includes $200 billion in defense cuts and slashes $200 billion from other discretionary spending. It raises $650 billion in new federal revenue by setting in motion an overhaul of the tax code, and generates $1 trillion in total revenue.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), co-chairman of the deficit-reduction panel, told reporters that Democrats and Republicans still have significant differences to bridge. He said Democrats have not put forward a plan that deals with Medicare, Medicaid and other healthcare-related drivers of the deficit.

“Unless we fundamentally address that, we will fail in our statutory duty,” Hensarling said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: debt; spending; stimulus; stimulus2; supercommittee
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1 posted on 11/10/2011 10:19:13 AM PST by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone

Not spending does not equal net savings. Turning around and spending that money definitely does not equal savings....but who’s surprised?


2 posted on 11/10/2011 10:21:48 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: BradtotheBone

Funny, how the libs complain about how much the war costs, and then turn on a dime (pun intended) to spend the “savings.”


3 posted on 11/10/2011 10:24:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: BradtotheBone

If the money is going to be spent no matter what - keep it with the military. We need a strong defense, we don’t need any more freeloaders leeching off the population. We have way too many parasites, and the host is critically anemic already. Economical death is just around the corner.


4 posted on 11/10/2011 10:26:16 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: BradtotheBone
Higher Taxes Won't Reduce the Deficit History shows that when Congress gets more revenue, the pols spend it. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704648604575620502560925156.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h

In the late 1980s, one of us, Richard Vedder, and Lowell Gallaway of Ohio University co-authored a often-cited research paper for the congressional Joint Economic Committee (known as the $1.58 study) that found that every new dollar of new taxes led to more than one dollar of new spending by Congress. Subsequent revisions of the study over the next decade found similar results.

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But no matter how we configured the data and no matter what variables we examined, higher tax collections never resulted in less spending.

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The grand bargain so many in Washington yearn for—tax increases coupled with spending cuts—is a fool's errand. Our research confirms what the late economist Milton Friedman said of Congress many years ago: "Politicians will always spend every penny of tax raised and whatever else they can get away with."

5 posted on 11/10/2011 10:27:56 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: BradtotheBone

Well then it isn’t savings, is it?

They cannot resist. They cannot control their instincts.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 10:27:59 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: BradtotheBone

sure that’ll work....I think i’ll use my savings from not buying a new BMW and go on a cruise.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 10:28:31 AM PST by wny
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To: BradtotheBone

Gee. What a surprise.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 10:28:54 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: BradtotheBone
help pay for spending on infrastructure.

I.E., they want money to buy union votes.

If this were to be done by military vets who need the jobs, sure. Keep the unions totally out of it, and this could be a bipartisan plan.

9 posted on 11/10/2011 10:30:56 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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didn't they try to use “war savings” to justify QE2 and Obamacare ? and was being bantered about with the “super committee” for deficit reduction

“war savings” is the stretch armstrong of budgeting.................it pays for everything —woo-hoo

10 posted on 11/10/2011 10:35:04 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: BradtotheBone

I would rather see my tax dollars being spent on huge wasteful military campaigns killing some jihadis, rather that seeing it go into stimulus spending, unions, Democrat coffers and individual jobs that cost $5 Million to create.

I am dead serious.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 10:46:37 AM PST by rlmorel (The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
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To: BradtotheBone

Bend over. Sounds like complete capitulation. BOHICA


12 posted on 11/10/2011 10:48:33 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: BradtotheBone

Aren’t these the folks who’ve complained for years that the wars were “off budget?” If what they’ve been saying for years is true, then there will be no savings if we stopped shooting today and shipped everybody back home.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 10:52:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: BradtotheBone

Another one? Have they already forgotten how the last one failed?


14 posted on 11/10/2011 10:59:51 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: BradtotheBone

We’re running a $1.3T deficit.
Saving $1T over 10 years means reducing the deficit to an annual $1.2T ... nowhere close to enough to say “hey, let’s spend more!”


15 posted on 11/10/2011 11:03:22 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: BradtotheBone

Do these people not understand anything? Time for a housecleanin’!


16 posted on 11/10/2011 11:06:58 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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Yeah, let's do a "1970" on the aerospace and defense industry again!

Eliminate several million jobs and spend the money on unemployment compensation.

17 posted on 11/10/2011 11:20:52 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: BradtotheBone

If there was a balanced budget then they cut $200B that would be savings!


18 posted on 11/10/2011 11:29:23 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: BradtotheBone

there ain’t no war savings. there’s less borrowing, at best.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 11:29:43 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: BradtotheBone

If they get that, they will be fulfilling the campaign promise which got Bob Casey elected to the Senate in 2006


20 posted on 11/10/2011 11:48:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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