Posted on 11/10/2011 8:17:29 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Mark Halperin called it the most important debate moment of Wednesday nights CNBC debate. No it wasnt Rick Perrys brain lapse but instead, Mitt Romneys attempt to re-frame the debate over ideological consistency.
Read this excerpt of the transcript below, and then lets discuss
HARWOOD: as you know. Your opponents have said you switched positions on many issues. It is an issue of character, not personal, but political, you seemed to encapsulate it in the last debate when you said, Im running for office, for Petes sake.
What can you say to Republicans to persuade them that the things you say in the campaign are rooted in something deeper than the fact that you are running for office?
ROMNEY: John, I think people know me pretty well, particularly in this state, in the state of Massachusetts, New Hampshire thats close by, Utah, where I served in the Olympics. I think people understand that Im a man of steadiness and constancy.
I dont think you are going to find somebody who has more of those attributes than I do. I have been married to the same woman for 25 excuse me, I will get in trouble, for 42 years.
(LAUGHTER)
ROMNEY: I have been in the same church my entire life. I worked at one company, Bain, for 25 years. And I left that to go off and help save the Olympic Games. I think it is outrageous the Obama campaign continues to push this idea, when you have in the Obama administration the most political presidency we have seen in modern history.
They are actually deciding when to pull out of Afghanistan based on politics. Let me tell you this, if Im president of the United States, I will be true to my family, to my faith, and to our country, and I will never apologize for the United States of America. Thats my belief.
(Emphasis mine.)
This was an interesting diversion. The question was about Romneys philosophical inconsistency but he never addressed his changing positions on important issues like abortion. Romney is clearly attempting to associate the two things as if to imply that not quitting your job equals not flip-flopping on the issues.
And yet, it wasnt obvious that he had dodged the question. (Good spin isnt blatant.)
Of course, the fact that Romney has been with the same wife for 42 years worked at the same company for 25 years and belonged to the same church his entire life is, I suppose, commendable. His personal life has been steady, boring, and consistent nobody has alleged otherwise.
But does it have anything to do with his changing policy positions?
I would argue this was a very slick example of sophistry.
The notion that there is a strong correlation between being consistent in ones personal life, and being philosophically consistent, is debatable. Does anyone doubt that Mark Sanford with all his faults would be more trusted than Romney to advance a conservative agenda as president? Jimmy Carter was, as far as I know, a good husband does that make him philosophically sound?
This, of course, is not to say that values and character do not matter they do but it is to say that Romneys answer was a non sequitur. Everyone knows Mitt Romney is a decent, respectable person. The question is whether or not he can be trusted to advance conservatism as president.
(And attacking Obama at the end was a nice touch, too.)
And JFK lost about a million votes because I wouldnt vote for a Catholic.
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That many Mormons wouldnt vote for him eh ???
Just because he was a Christian...
If Romney is the nominee we will have a repeat, maybe even worse than 2008.
The establishment elite think Romney can get white dems who no longer want Obama, and indies.
As for conservatives, the idea is to expect us to hold our nose if we don’t want Obama.
If McCain couldn’t do it, neither can Romney. They never learn.
A few minutes ago, Tokyo Rove was on FOX. He was rather subdued today. Hardly mentioned Cain, which I found interesting.
Just change the word Mormon to Catholic and you have a re-run of JFKs presidential run.
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NO Sandy
You will never have that...
How could you equate the coward Williard Mitt Romney with the wartime hero John Fitzgerald Kennedy ???
JFK fought for his country, and saved mens lives..
TWO Time draft dodger lil Willie Mitty refused to go but took off to Paris and hung out there during Vietnam living in a mansion and driving a Citroen and eating fancy food while good men died in the mud of the jungle..
Dont EVER use JFK again in an attempt to make a point about the weasel Romney...
JFK may not have been perfect but Romney couldnt lick his boots...
bttcch
ROTFL....that statement is ridiculous. Some people just can't pass up an opportunity to play the "persecution" card.
The media is salivating at the thought of Mitt being the Republican nominee because the Obama machine will eat him alive...but ignorance is the refuge of a member of a cult.
Let me break down each comment...
Yes the news Media hate Mitt Romney. SOP for any Republican. However, the media is playing it cool with Romney since the race is up in the air... if Romney did secure the nomination, they WILL then come after him.
There is much dislike for Romney on FR. But unlike the media which just hates anyone with an (R) after its name, FR people distrust Romney's flip flop. Just read George Will's column on October 30, it codifies the issue with Romney using the ethanol issue. (Also not helping Romney with FR folks is his known operatives on the McCain campaign that were working against Palin.)
To say FOX new hates Romney is absurd. Hannity will cuddle him as he does any (R). Contributors such as Coulter, Ingraham, Morris have been friendly to him. The FOX all-stars lead by THE HAMMER (whom I like), have been calling for his nomination since the beginning.
No it ISN'T!!
Anyone who won't kiss Baal OBVIOUSLY is a HATER!!
--MormonDude(And probably a BIGOT, too!)
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