Posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:35 AM PST by rabscuttle385
BOSTONChanting hands off and no cuts, hundreds of seniors rallied here to warn Congresss deficit-cutting supercommittee to stay away from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
When you get older, you need help, not cuts, said Steve Ciardi, a former pipe fitter who has multiple sclerosis and was in a wheelchair being pushed by his wife, Patty.
That is what the country is about helping people, she said.
AARP Massachusetts, the SEIU and AFL-CIO labor unions, and several senior activist groups are organizing the event, which kicked off this morning with a rally at the historic Wang Theatre in downtown Boston.
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That is what the country is about helping people, she said.
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AH No
The country is about opportunity for people to work and save and help themselves...
and stand on their own two feet..
I'm sorry; the Government is not empowered to "help" people by penalizing others.
Charity is the helper.
Likewise, this Country is ABOUT FAMILIES and GOD, helping their own. When the "family" consists of multiple households on Welfare or Government assistance for their entire lives, we have gone TOO FAR.
The Wang Theatre is an appropriate venue for a collection of meat puppets.
Massachusetts Motto:
“No tax is too high, no outrage is too small, and no sacrifice is necessary.”
Just where do they think the money for entitlement programs comes from? The trees?
They would rather leave our children in debt than sacrifice so they can have a future.
Go figure.
LOL. Translation" "That is what the country is about -- helping ME. Gimme Gimme Gimme and make someone else pay for it."
Maybe I’m wrong (and if so, I have no doubt smeone will correct me) but I was under the impression that the ostensible rationale for the government docking your paycheck every month, month after month, for forty or more years, was so that you could get back the money you EARNED as social security payments.
"Tell the media you seniors want your benefits."
"Yes Mr. SEIU."
"No, say it to the media, not me."
"Yes, Mr. SEIU."
"Sigh. Some one get me another senior..."
Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.
It is one thing for the OWS people to be clueless but these people?
NO ONE, Dem or GOP, has ever said anything about cutting their SS and medicare.
well except Obamacare will likely cause cuts in some care.
so why aren’t they protesting 0dumbo?
No one in cngress has sugggested cutting anyone who is currently receiving SS or is about to.
Who whipped these people up?
AARP is a union racket of the oldsters. They have been Anti-capitalist maybe since their conception, but American retirees support them in hoards for the hotel discounts. ICK! There are other organizations out there besides AARP’s racket. Find one.
You are right. This is a true media crime. To score points against Republicans, the media is suggesting that Republicans want to cut the SS checks of current seniors. What a horrible lie. The GOP and any other sane adult in America, wants to raise the retirement age and cut the rate of growth of benefits for people from 55 and younger. These seniors are at best dupes and at worst willing props in the defense of an unsustainable entitlement state. They are protesting cuts that won’t impact them and the result will be the destruction of the country after they die.
AARP in bed with the union thugs. I wish they would quit sending me their garbage.
American retirees support them in hoards for the hotel discounts.
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you can get hotel discounts by just being over 60..
cruise discounts ...55
movie discounts 55 or 60..
etc
you dont have to join the AARP
Interesting the AARP is throwing in with the SEIU and AFL-CIO. Glad I didn't join.
She needed to fill in the blank:
churches
friends
family
NOT GOVERNMENT !
What an interesting web we weave.
“The typical U.S. household headed by a person age 65 or older has a net worth 47 times greater than a household headed by someone under 35, according to an analysis of census data released Monday.”
When the SHTF, who will survive? The old or the young that are being oppressed and saddled with debt?
Will state and federal workers retirees form gangs to claim what the government promised them?
Absolutely right.
Newt addressed the underlying problme twice in debates now...the Social Security was moved into the general budget back in 1968...there is no longer a trust fund. We need to move the current Social Security as the TRUST FUND it was meant to be and understand the real size of the deficit. Enough with the shell game accounting tricks.
I don’t blame people one bit for being threatened they can’t get what they’ve paid into all their lives. And the Left is perpetuating that.
However...Congress pays nothing into Social Security. As Herman Cain says, when it’s YOUR money, you make better decisions.
So, Congress has two choices. Eliminate their current retirement plan and join Social Security like the rest of us are forced to do...or let us develop a plan like Congress has. Or our own retirement account.
AARP is crooked..and I will NEVER join. they ushered in 0bama and his healthcare...and will be the first ones to claimm and exemption. They can step off.
Check out this document from GAO:
www.gao.gov/new.items/d05193sp.pdf
Your money is not deposited anywhere. The dollar amount is credited to the trust fund, which does not actually contain money. (pg. 17)
SSI is a defined benfits pension, not a defined contribution system. (pg 18)
It is also uses “pay as you go” (i.e. ponzi) financing meaning most money going in pays current recipients. (pg 22).
I’m still trying to track down how much SSI actually costs the taxpayer. Remember, it’s not just benefits paid out, it’s the salaries of gov’t workers at SSA along w/their generous benefits. It’s also the cost of those SS buildings to house those employees’ workplace and requisite IT infrastructure.
Such items do not appear in the SS budget, as far as I can tell. The “overhead” in the SS budget applies to financial services associated w/Medicare (as far as I can tell).
I’ve tried looking through fed budgets to see what the employees of SS cost us, along w/buildings, etc., to no avail. Not enough time for me to do that research.
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