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Posted on 11/08/2011 6:30:59 AM PST by martosko
Monday’s Gloria Allred-assisted bombshell about Herman Cain is inspiring a wide range of reactions from all corners of the American political landscape. Liberals are occupying the narrow dynamic range between we-told-you-so and general Schaddenfreude. But conservatives’ positions seem decidedly mixed. This shouldn’t be so.
Everything should have changed Monday for future Republican primary voters, even for die-hard riders of the Cain Train.
What was previously a smattering of anonymous sexual harassment accusations has now become a very specific allegation of sexual assault. And what had suggested a tenuous analogy to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas now evokes a firm President Clinton déjà vu.
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But unless and until we see corroborating evidence, and considering the long standing habit of the major press organs to invent stories and lie, I will take Mr. Cain at his word. Not just because his current known accuser is a plasticized serial bankrupt in desperate need of money (isn't the Internet a wonder?) but because the accusations are at odds with everything else that is known or can be perceived in the man's character.
That's not to say we can't be entirely wrong about a person's character. We only have to look as far as State College, PA this week to see that someone everybody thought a pillar of the community was and is in fact a monster. But pending some evidence of wrong doing I'm still more on the Cain Train than not.
Sadly, I think that is a fairly accurate statement.
You said it well. When a Dem is accused, his side defends him. It should be noted, however, that few Dems are accused w/out good evidence, b/c the MSM will only run w slipshod hearsay against a GOPer.
When flimsy or even contradictory accusations are made against a GOPer, they get little support and often are slimed by fellow conservatives [as witnessed on this thread]. How anyone thinks this is going to serve us well in the fight to retire Obama is unfathomable.
If a similar woman w similar claims came out w Gloria Allred against *their* candidate, they would suddenly notice the issues w the story’s credibility. It is disgusting to watch conservatives go after Cain on the basis of such questionable evidence. Who needs Dems, when conservatives will do their work for them?
It’s actually about honesty and trustworthiness - and judgment, none of which I would say are possessed by Cain.
Cain’s the liar, ala Bill Clinton. I am disgusted by the way he is cynically manipulating people who trust him.
He obviously went after people he thought were vulnerable, not interested in anything more than a fling, and probably did this on many occasions with people who did not complain because it was their habit to have a one-night stand on a business trip.
It has been very ugly. And I simply don’t understand the insane devotion to a personality. I thought conservatives were more mature than that, but I guess not.
These are pretty strong judgments from someone who admits,
I don’t know whether the claims against Cain were true and frankly I don’t care.
I am personally offended by people who are willing to condemn others based on a scurrilous political smear jobs before any credible evidence has been offered. Comparing the allegations against Mr. Cain to those brought against President Clinton are laughable. There was ample proof and substance to the allegations against President Clinton. The fact that you admit that you could not care less about whether any of the claims against Mr. Cain are true makes me wonder about your mental stability.
The first three women are anonymous and we have no specifics whatsoever.
This current one, the only one with a name, is a demonstrable flake with a dire financial situation. Do I need to link the specifics, or can you navigate Free Republic on your own? Her history has been amply shown here.
And on this, you trash Cain? Really?
Yes I do find that offensive. You do realize many on Free Republic know this man, right? Some of have worked on his 2004 Senate run, there are also colleagues Cain, and even someone who teaches his grandchildren.
He is not some unknown. Do you even know his bio? Do you believe he could have climbed the corporate ladder like he did as a con? A degree in math, masters in computer science, worked for the Dept of the Navy, Coke as a systems analyst, Pillsbury, Godfathers, NRA... You cannot CON your way into that kind of success for that long. It is simply not possible.
If you don’t like his “delivery” look at his writing. All of his books are excellent but if you don’t want to buy a book, you can read his commentaries here:
http://www.thinkersvoice.com/content/cainscommentary
and here:
http://economicfreedomcoalition.com/press-opinion.asp
from anonymous sources are less than worthless. They are only evidence of a political smear. People who claim to be conservatives who are willing to condemn others based on nothing but a MSM smear job are nothing but mindless tools for the Left.
“What was previously a smattering of anonymous sexual harassment accusations has now become a very specific allegation of sexual assault.”
Sexual assault? She claims he made a pass at her. Except for black conservatives, that is not normally referred to as sexual assault. If it actually happened, it would be best described as “attempted adultery.”
By the way, Perry is possibly the worst presidential candidate I've seen in my life. And I've seen some pretty bad candidates.
True, although I tend to think of the behavior in question as leftist in spirit, even if perpetrated by registered Republicans.
This smear attempt is so clumsy and transparent I can’t imagine anyone believing it.
The woman was just on FOX and admitted her address is in the same building as David Axlerod. She says she sees him in the gym, but they don’t talk.
Yeah, right.
But that ain’t going to stop FOX. Here comes Tokyo Rove to declare the woman credible and Cain finished.
On sometime soon.
and slick served 8 years and was impeached for lying under oath about an affair he had in the WH. Slick was slime, Cain is not even close to that. ALWAYS remember; Cain is not a lawyer and that is a huge plus in my book
Mr. Cain has been thrown a soft ball and I have no doubt that he will be able knock this one out of the park. It almost makes me wonder if Mark Block didn't just punk Gloria Allred and the entire liberal and RINO establishment. If so he is a genius that makes Carl Rove look like a kindergartner in the political arena. Last night on Kimmel, Mr. Cain looked completely at ease. So I am waiting to see how this turns out.
You’re kidding, right Dave? The anonymous accusers are now free to speak but won’t. Of the public accusers, Sharon Bialek is telling an unprovable story and based on her background has overwhelming credibility issues, including a strong money motive. The other “accusations” on the table don’t rise above salacious innuendo.
If you’ve never been subjected to a defamation campaign, you may not realize how easy this is to do. I had a dispute with my neighbor about a garbage dumpster. My efforts to document misuse of that dumpster were transformed into a slanderous innuendo campaign shockingly devoid of truth, and conducted by two or three people who had no reason whatsoever to thus debase themselves over a nobody like me. But they did.
Whereas Cain finds himself on a national stage, threatening to disrupt the preordained GOP nomination process, and suddenly there appears this unconvincing parade of bomb throwers who have no evidence and incoherent stories that conform neither to Mr. Cain’s established reputation nor even to the internal structure of their own stories.
In the end, the public will be the judge, but no judge I know would give such substanceless charges the time of day.
This family is on the Cain Train and what he says is true, once you are on that Train you don't drop off.
He has the 2 votes from this household. We have the bumper sticker on our car. Although the car is broken down in the front yard today, the sticker gives it a classy look.
Let's take a poll and see how many FReepers were calling Juanita, Paula, Gennifer and Kathleen liars and how many were saying that Clinton was ahead in the polls that's why Gennifer accused him of having a 12 year affair. And let's ask how many FReepers were defending Clinton when all these bimbo erruptions took place. The hypocrisy from the right is stunning.
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