Posted on 11/08/2011 6:30:59 AM PST by martosko
Monday’s Gloria Allred-assisted bombshell about Herman Cain is inspiring a wide range of reactions from all corners of the American political landscape. Liberals are occupying the narrow dynamic range between we-told-you-so and general Schaddenfreude. But conservatives’ positions seem decidedly mixed. This shouldn’t be so.
Everything should have changed Monday for future Republican primary voters, even for die-hard riders of the Cain Train.
What was previously a smattering of anonymous sexual harassment accusations has now become a very specific allegation of sexual assault. And what had suggested a tenuous analogy to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas now evokes a firm President Clinton déjà vu.
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If true, I would agree with you. The issue is whether the woman's claims are true. I don't find them terribly plausible at this point, and I'll admit that is partly because I assumed the far left would try the "black man threatening a white woman sexually" gambit because in their racist minds that seems like a frightening thought. If this turns out to be true, then I agree, and it might be time to settle for Newt. Otherwise, I'm still supporting Cain for now. It's not a pretty political field for America, but Cain is the best we have with you-know-who not running.
What I want to know is if this woman continued talking to Cain after his alleged groping.
Not just the Dems. There are many in the Republican party who want to bring down Rev. Cain.
"It is hypocritical in the extreme for those members of the media who didn’t take the charges and allegations against Bill Clinton seriously to be taking the allegations against Herman Cain that we now have as seriously as they are. Hypocritical is probably too soft a word, frankly.Seems like people on these threads, the "Cainiacs," are more interested in bashing these women and protecting their beloved candidate than they are in finding out the truth.
That said, Herman Cain and his campaign chief of staff, Mark Block, cannot go on as they have. There has been a pattern now that is both unhealthy for our politics and unhealthy for our polity.
Four women are not an insignificant number. One or two anonymous charges, perhaps. Three anonymous charges (where, as I understand the story, Cain knows of at least two of the women) plus one woman who went very public and opened herself up to all manner of investigation are a lot. It is no longer insignificant. Neither is it insignificant that the Cain campaign discounted the charges in the initial stories, saying they were based on anonymous sources, only to make a mockery by blaming other campaigns with less substantiation than the original stories.
If Herman Cain wants to be taken seriously as a public advocate for anything, never mind running for the chief executive and commander in chief of the most powerful and important and blessed country in the world, he needs to give a full press conference dedicated exclusively to this issue and these allegations.
I have watched long enough and held my tongue long enough to give him the benefit of the doubt, but can no longer say this is a witch hunt, “a lynching” to use his word, or any other euphemism. There are allegations out there that matter and they have stacked up. For we who led the charge against Bill Clinton on a number of related issues to continue to blame the media or other campaigns or say it simply doesn’t matter makes us the hypocrites as well."
Exactly. Cain is being lynched...and some idiot Republicans are playing along. Hussein is a disaster. He is DEMONSTRABLY raping liberty, capitalism, and freedom with his fascist regime. Hussein’s crimes should be the focus of our attention.
Bullcrap rumors ought to be ignored. If these women have a legal case, bring it. Otherwise shut it.
Wow. So despite the fact that Cain’s side of the story has been corraborated by outside witnesses, as well as NRA’s own statement on Friday, you choose to believe instead some “anonymous” allegations (of what we are still not sure) as well as Shannon Bialek whose story is falling apart right in front of our eyes.
It must be sad to need your candidate to win so badly that you would perpetuate an incredible unfounded bias towards another, honest, Christian conservative.
Some of you need some real heart and soul searching to see what is the bottom of all this hate. I’m not saying support Cain’s candidacy, but check the level of animosity you exhibit towards him. It is not healthy.
Since when is a lie worth repeating?
There is a kind of Cain hatred among conservatives that gives me the creeps. After reading these threads I feel as if I’ve visited DU, and need a shower. Exculpatory evidence has surfaced, but it flows off the Cain haters like logic off a moonbat. It’s scary and sickening.
I should have said, ‘among *some* conservatives’.
When it benefits the other guy...
It’s abundantly clear to me that Dem operatives have been dragging out these women and feeding them a script....I’m not falling for it....and even if it’s true...so what? If Cain was a Democrat it would be considered a resume enhancer.
I’m over it, I just don’t care anymore about what a politician does, I just assume they’re all philanderers, it’s a wash.
I love Bill Bennett but he’s absolutely wrong on this issue. The problem with certain intellectuals is that they cannot see the resemblance between an intellectual Supreme Court Justice and a populist, dynamic presidential contender. So because they are unalike in terms of personality and life experiences, intellectuals like Bennett cannot see the similarities of what both men have gone through.
Herman Cain is not Justice Thomas. But he is a black man going through a high-tech lynching.
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I believe all of this woman's story except the crotch grabbing/head pushing part.
I agree with you on the part about Cain lacking in judgement.
The stories we have heard certainly points to lack of good judgement by Herman Cain, in my opinion.
It doesn't matter if it is fair or not, true or not-- it is poor judgement that got him in this predicament.
Heck, even the picture of Cain with that woman at a Tea Party a month ago shows Cain's hand in a position that has gotten costumed Disney characters in trouble.
Not that I think it IS a grope or anything bad at all--but he needs to pay attention to these details no matter how innocent.
Nowadays people will find anything to nail ya with.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/8592168-452/witness-cain-accuser-hugged-him-during-tea-party-meeting-a-month-ago.html#.Trk7rvDDDrA.twitter
It clearly illustrates why so many good, qualified people never run for office. Herman had nothing but the best intentions and as his reward he sees a lifetime of accomplishments get trashed while the people who should be supporting him jump on the bandwagon instead, just because they think it might help a different candidate.
Cain’s giving a press conference today, so that ought to make Bennett happy.
Cain’s toast
Sorry to offend you, but from the beginning Herman Cain has always seemed to me just like the fictional character Elmer Gantry of book and movie fame.
Gantry was also a charmer who shouted his evangelical prose in tent services across the country but became human soon enough when confronted by the preacher’s daughter he defamed. The author is Sinclair Lewis.
And BTW, I am sick of 9-9-9. I’m not in the mood for any type of added taxes.
Disclaimer: Gov. Rick Perry is my candidate of choice.
I think I agree with what you are saying. Dem. operatives drag out these stories of unspeakable behavior towards women, and we’re supposed to be so shocked at such lurid allegations, that we drop all support for Cain.
The same liberals who are so shocked about this had nothing to say about Bill Clinton, or defended Bill Clinton, or perform character assassination against Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, etc.
The fact that Gloria Allred is orchestrating the story of at least this one girl who went public actually makes me doubt her story that much more.
It’s all political character assassination. We are not seeing these stories come out to give us a better perspective on the character or positions of Herman Cain.
As far as judgement is concerned, maybe the lesson is — for men in positions of power, never, ever be alone with a girl who is not your wife. Who knows what will be said about it years later.
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