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Paul says friendship best way to deal with Iran
SRNNews ^ | Sunday, November 06, 2011 | ANNE FLAHERTY

Posted on 11/06/2011 8:53:22 PM PST by This Just In

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To: truthfreedom
. I’d rather have it be all about who is cutting domestic the most.

Cut and Run may talk about cuts, but that is all he ever does, TALK in all the time he has been in Washington he has never done anything. That is except acquire tons of earmarks, the ones he says he is against.
81 posted on 11/08/2011 3:10:16 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

The earmarks issue is bs.

I’m sure we’ve been over and over on this dozens of times.

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82 posted on 11/08/2011 4:35:12 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
The earmarks issue is bs.

What is bs? The part where cut and run says he is against them? Well the surrender monkey has said on several occasions he is against them. Or are you saying he doesn't acquire them on a regular basis? Well he has acquired more earmarks than almost any other Representative in Washington. He may vote against them but if he was one bit honest he would not put them in in the first place. Every earmark raises spending. If he really wanted to cut spending he would not be putting earmarks in that do increase spending.
83 posted on 11/08/2011 2:41:21 PM PST by John D
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To: John D

earmarks don’t increase spending.

the earmarks discussion is only “who decides” - the executive branch or the legislative branch.


84 posted on 11/08/2011 5:04:52 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: This Just In
Well, let's see...We tried bombing Yugoslavia out of existence, we bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, and Pakistan, and nothing seems to work.

We haven't bombed the $hit out of Iran yet, so maybe that's what we should do.

Maybe we haven't bombed enough countries yet.

It SHOULD work, because it usually does.

They'll get the message eventually.

85 posted on 11/09/2011 2:17:32 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer
We tried bombing Yugoslavia out of existence, we bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, and Pakistan, and nothing seems to work.

I dunno, the bombing part seems to work pretty well, except we stop it too soon, and then stupidly hang around when it's over.

86 posted on 11/09/2011 2:27:24 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Designer

To add: I guess that results from the “Powell Doctrine,” which absurdly requires an “exit strategy” more complicated than “your country is no longer a threat to us.”


87 posted on 11/09/2011 2:30:26 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Absurdity enough to go around. Enough for everybody to have a share.

Time was, way back when, we just fought a war to win it. Now we don't. Pi$$es me off.

88 posted on 11/09/2011 2:43:21 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer

Well I don’t know. That whole Japan thing put the brakes on some things.

As if “friendship” with Iran’s going to endear us to Iranians. Yeah, you could fill the Library of Congress with volumes of history books chronicling examples of “friendship is solution” deals. /s


89 posted on 11/09/2011 8:19:08 PM PST by This Just In
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To: goseminoles

That was my first reaction.


90 posted on 11/09/2011 8:21:02 PM PST by YankeeDoodleRebel
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To: lormand

Sorry, late reply, but in short it is unclear what the United States gains from various foreign engagements that go beyond keeping the oceans open and deterring military attack on the US.

A United States with guarded borders, a strict immigration policy and a strong military would not need to travel around to various hellholes to engage in “nation building”, etc. If need be, the policy could change if some other player was making a go at world domination.

So, that was the case in brief. Unlike Paul, there is no need to pretend that the Iranian government is reasonable. An isolationist US would just sell Israel weapons and give them a free hand to do what needs to be done. Instead, the non-isolationist US has just handed over Iraq on a silver platter to the Iranians. Nice.


91 posted on 11/10/2011 2:29:51 AM PST by globelamp
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To: globelamp
Isolationist policy would ban the supply of weapons to anyone. That's the nature of isolationism. Our standard of living would drop dramatically. Secondly, a Ron Paul adminstration would be the last administration to do anything for the Israelis.

Ron Paul says one crack-pot statement after another, and his drones not only ignore it, but make excuses for it. Ron Paul has extended his hands to the Mullah and Ayatollahs of Iran, not the Israelis. Ron Paul is the Jihad's Useful Idiot.

The Islamists in Iran wish to thank Ron Paul and his dead-ender supporters.

92 posted on 11/10/2011 7:13:53 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: lormand

“Isolationism” could mean many things. The Ron Paul approach is (in my view) indeed dangerous, and more importantly, morally blind, there you will have no disagreement from me.

Like any policy, for “Isolationism” to be workable, it needs to be built on a moral foundation, and to be non-dogmatic and capable of responding to a changing world. You are entirely correct to note that, for instance, cutting off trade with the rest of the world would be the wrong thing to do if one wishes to preserve the US standard of living.

Nor would it be wise to cut off the supply of arms to our friends and allies around the world. Nor would it be wise to disarm the US.

However, the basic attitude of attempting to isolate the US from threats and dangers, instead of attempting to manage every troublespot in the world actively, is probably sound.

On such basic observations about the limits of isolation, a sound isolationism that enhances US security, and reduces the costs associated with “world management” could be built. My vision of an “isolated” US, for instance, would mean:

- Not having middle-eastern flight school students running around the US (and into US buildings).

- Not allowing massive unskilled and / or illegal immigration into the US.

- Not attempting to micro-manage the politics and societies of the Middle East and Africa through warfare and nation building.

- Not keeping troops garrisoned in countries that can obviously provide their own security, such as South Korea and Germany.

In practice, a more “isolationist” US would be focused on policing US borders and immigration instead of invading Iraq while attempting to reform Afghan society, conducting drone strikes in Yemen and bombing Islamists into power in Libya.

Sadly, the Isolationism championed by Ron Paul is both morally blind and dogmatic. Isolationism deserves a better class of champion.


93 posted on 11/11/2011 2:31:48 AM PST by globelamp
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