Posted on 11/06/2011 12:09:01 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
US NAVY Seals have revealed for the first time that they killed Osama Bin Laden within 90 seconds of entering his fortress-like home in Pakistan.
The men who killed the al-Qaeda chief have decided to speak out because they are tired of their "shabby treatment" by politicians who claim they were on a "kill mission".
They insisted there was no lengthy gun-fight in the compound and claimed they would have captured Bin Laden if he had surrendered, The Sunday Times in the UK reports (behind a paywall).
They were not on a "kill mission", they said, and fired only 12 bullets in the entire operation.
The details of the mission, which was codenamed Operation Neptune’s Spear, are revealed in a book by the Seals' former commander, Chuck Pfarrer.
"I've been a Seal for 30 years and I never heard the words 'kill mission'. It's a fantasy word. If it was a kill mission you don’t need Seal Team 6; you need a box of hand grenades."
He said the men were angry with President Barack Obama for announcing Bin Laden’s death on TV just hours after they completed the mission on May 1.
"There isn't a politician in the world who could resist trying to take credit for getting Bin Laden but it devalued the 'intel' and gave time for every other Al-Qaeda leader to scurry to another bolthole," he said.
"The men who did this and their valorous act deserve better. It's a pretty shabby way to treat these guys."
Pfarrer's books also reveals that the Seals' nickname for Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri were Bert and Ernie, after the two Muppets in Sesame Street.
When they were first told they were going to Pakistan to pick up a high-value person who was holed up in high-walled compound, they asked: "So is this Bert or Ernie?"
Pfarrer said the squad's nickname was Jedi.
His account of the mission makes for terrifying reading. Here is an extract from The Sunday Times report, detailing the death of Bin Laden:
Bin Laden’s bedroom was along a short hall. The door opened; he popped out and then slammed the door shut. “Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo,” radioed one Seal, meaning “eyes on target”.
Two Seals kicked in Bin Laden’s door. The room, they later recalled, "smelt like old clothing, like a guest bedroom in a grandmother’s house". Inside was the al-Qaeda leader and his youngest wife, Amal, who was screaming as he pushed her in front of him.
"No, no, don’t do this!” she shouted as her husband reached across the king-size bed for his AK-47 assault rifle. The Seals reacted instantly, firing in the same second. One round thudded into the mattress. The other, aimed at Bin Laden’s head, grazed Amal in the calf. As his hand reached for the gun, they each fired again: one shot hit his breastbone, the other his skull, killing him instantly and blowing out the back of his head.
Direct action doesn’t necessarily mean kill. Direct action means a lot of things.
Might I suggest, 'humbly', that unless you were there or have been in a similar operation that YOU AIN"T GOT A CLUE how fast things can go down - It doesn't take long to kick in a door - - and binie took time to first grab his wife for a body shield...
So I suggest, 'humbly', that you or anyone else, unless you were there or have served in a like situation - STFU.
(Takes a lot to get this little ole great granny's ire up - but you - and others on ths thread, have done done it.)
"Jesse Ventura was NOT, nor was he ever, a Navy SEAL; though part of Underwater Demolition Team 12, he left the Navy 8 years before they were combined with the SEAL Teams, and SEAL status was not retroactive. The 2 NEC's for each are different as well. Ventura, though on active duty during the Vietnam War, never saw any combat action.
Ventura's claim to be a former member of SEAL Team 1 was exposed as a lie by former Navy SEAL Commander Bill Salisbury in his article published in the San Diego Reader."
or maybe you’re full of crap
OK, OK, OK,!!!!
Double Tap with a Kick, maybe, but ‘Kill Mission’, ...Never!
FYI..HEADS UP!!NatGeo channel has a special airing TONIGHT, 9PM EST..”The last hours of Bin Ladin.” worth at least setting the DVR
None of the above. I did wash out of Marine Corps Officer Candidate School at Quantico after one month of delightful boot-camp as an E-1 due to heart palpitations after the first 20 mile march. Prior to enlistment I had to pass all of the aviation paper testing sufficient to demonstrate my capacity to complete training as a navigator-bombardier in the back seat of a Marine F-4 Phantom, but, alas, I had “the wrong stuff” physically.
I read the other day that he’s now retired. He can say whatever he wants now.
“Do you work for the alcu?”
Know your enemy!
I just follow the news and try to figure out possible motivation for spin. The first flip-flop by the Obama Admin was to spin from a narrative where Bin Laden was armed and firing back to one where he wasn’t armed...perhaps after reviewing the video.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html
“White House changes Osama bin Laden account”
“White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Tuesday publicly revised the administration’s account of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, telling reporters that the Al Qaeda leader wasn’t armed during the assault and didn’t use one of his wives as a shield.
“On Monday evening, the White House had backed away from key details in its narrative about the raid, including claims by senior U.S. officials that bin Laden had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.”
You miss the point. All we have are anonymous sources, conflicting versions and inconsistencies in descriptions. I am one of those who strongly oppose (see my other posts) the attacks on Herman Cain from anonymous sources. Why should I not question a British newspaper that uses the same tactic? Otherwise, wouldn’t it be that we accept what we want to believe while rejecting what we do not like?
OK everybody who thought it was a kill mission raise your hands. I rest my case. LOL!
Well I’m sorry to hear of your physical problem. Happy to hear tho that you passed all of the qualifications to be a Navigator. I can imagine the thrill of riding back seat on an F-4. Take care of that heart of yours.
The whitehouse staff, poor things, never know when they’re going to be required to revise a story, how many times or which way, at that moment.
Ahhh that is not the way it works in for many people in the DoD, including SEALs
Well, he wasn’t giving up methods and means, and the intel that led them there, only the actual participants’ take and briefest of explanations of what went down. He may have been able to bypass that approval process, or maybe it passed muster because of lack of specifics. But it’s for sure he wanted to retire so he could talk. Obviously he and his guys were ticked off by the jackass in chief and his sidekick.
Not if its classified. Even if you are retired, those national security oaths follow you forever. That's one of the things that is peculiar about these disclosures.
They were not on a "kill mission", they said, and fired only 12 bullets in the entire operation.
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