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Navy Seals speak out: How we killed 'Bert' Laden (sic - despise Dumb0 for leaking...)
Daily Telegraph (Oz) ^ | 11/06/2011 | News Com

Posted on 11/06/2011 12:09:01 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000

US NAVY Seals have revealed for the first time that they killed Osama Bin Laden within 90 seconds of entering his fortress-like home in Pakistan.

The men who killed the al-Qaeda chief have decided to speak out because they are tired of their "shabby treatment" by politicians who claim they were on a "kill mission".

They insisted there was no lengthy gun-fight in the compound and claimed they would have captured Bin Laden if he had surrendered, The Sunday Times in the UK reports (behind a paywall).

They were not on a "kill mission", they said, and fired only 12 bullets in the entire operation.

The details of the mission, which was codenamed Operation Neptune’s Spear, are revealed in a book by the Seals' former commander, Chuck Pfarrer.

"I've been a Seal for 30 years and I never heard the words 'kill mission'. It's a fantasy word. If it was a kill mission you don’t need Seal Team 6; you need a box of hand grenades."

He said the men were angry with President Barack Obama for announcing Bin Laden’s death on TV just hours after they completed the mission on May 1.

"There isn't a politician in the world who could resist trying to take credit for getting Bin Laden but it devalued the 'intel' and gave time for every other Al-Qaeda leader to scurry to another bolthole," he said.

"The men who did this and their valorous act deserve better. It's a pretty shabby way to treat these guys."

Pfarrer's books also reveals that the Seals' nickname for Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri were Bert and Ernie, after the two Muppets in Sesame Street.

When they were first told they were going to Pakistan to pick up a high-value person who was holed up in high-walled compound, they asked: "So is this Bert or Ernie?"

Pfarrer said the squad's nickname was Jedi.

His account of the mission makes for terrifying reading. Here is an extract from The Sunday Times report, detailing the death of Bin Laden:

Bin Laden’s bedroom was along a short hall. The door opened; he popped out and then slammed the door shut. “Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo,” radioed one Seal, meaning “eyes on target”.

Two Seals kicked in Bin Laden’s door. The room, they later recalled, "smelt like old clothing, like a guest bedroom in a grandmother’s house". Inside was the al-Qaeda leader and his youngest wife, Amal, who was screaming as he pushed her in front of him.

"No, no, don’t do this!” she shouted as her husband reached across the king-size bed for his AK-47 assault rifle. The Seals reacted instantly, firing in the same second. One round thudded into the mattress. The other, aimed at Bin Laden’s head, grazed Amal in the calf. As his hand reached for the gun, they each fired again: one shot hit his breastbone, the other his skull, killing him instantly and blowing out the back of his head.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 90seconds; afghanistan; alqaeda; chuckpfarrer; deathofbinladen; navyseals; neptunesspear; osamabinladen; osamabinladendead; pakistan; waronterror
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

“There isn’t a politician in the world who could resist trying to take credit for getting Bin Laden but it devalued the ‘intel’ .......

...........and gave time for every other Al-Qaeda leader to scurry to another bolthole,” he said.”


We may never know how many lives will be lost due to Obama’s incompetence, arrogance and politically driven FAILURE to look at the big picture.

Even in the killing of Bin Laden, Obama is a lying FAILURE.


21 posted on 11/06/2011 12:55:11 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

keep in mind... the announcement was meant to push something out of the news cycle

0bama’s forged birth certificate and the fact that it was the only ‘official’ document showing his fathers citizenship at the time of his birth.

by announcing this preplanned raid, they were able to cut any push for eligibility requirements or questions about the forgery

so yes, the Seals were used


22 posted on 11/06/2011 12:55:36 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Hilarious! (You are so quick!)

Obama might have been getting nervous that he might be in for the same Pinochet treatment that the Democrats and ACLU have demanded for Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld where they can't travel to the EU without accepting the risk of being hauled into a Spanish court and charged with war crimes.

23 posted on 11/06/2011 1:02:48 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would think he purposely shot her in the leg so she would fall and give a clear shot even though shooting through her would have been a sure thing.

Pretty quick thinking and excellent shooting.


24 posted on 11/06/2011 1:04:00 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
......as her husband reached across the king-size bed for his AK-47 assault rifle

One thing I'll never forget about working with Afghans and Arabs is that they have no idea how stupid, backwards, and incompetent they are.

Bin Laden was unarmed and a few feet from his weapon, with several of the best trained commandos in the world, with their fingers on their triggers, covering him.

The flippin' moron tries to make a leap for his AK so he can fight them off like the brave Arab warrior he thinks he is.

The SEALs score two instant kill shots, one in the head, the other in the chest.

25 posted on 11/06/2011 1:06:16 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: RC2
This is a start--and I hope the truth will come out loud and clear. May Obama's grab for the "glory" which SEAL TEAM 6 earned through accomplishing their mission be revealed for the disgusting and disgraceful act of egoism--as opposed to heroism--that it is.

And I would even go so far as to say that Obama--and his fawning sycophants in the media--are in large part responsible for the death of those SEALS killed in that horrific helicopter crash. NO--NADA--NOTHING--should have been revealed about who was responsible for bin Laden's death, much less the mention of the SEALS and especially the team number.

Watching the announcement of the "breaking news" of bin Laden's death, I became FURIOUS about all that info being given out, despite enjoying the moment of victory for our nation. And I think most men and women in the military felt the same way: their victory was being snatched from them and paraded before the jaws of those who hunger to defeat them by their own CIC!

26 posted on 11/06/2011 1:10:07 PM PST by milagro
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To: Seizethecarp

Do you work for the alcu?


27 posted on 11/06/2011 1:10:27 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Seizethecarp

U are tho thmart. Were you a SEAL or in the Navy, or Army or Air Force, Coast Guard?


28 posted on 11/06/2011 1:13:58 PM PST by tillacum
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To: gaijin

This time we are in, with this Gay Muslim pretender and hater of the United States in our White House, will eventually go down as the one of the darkest chapters in the history of the United States so far.

I can think of several high value targets our finest should be unleashed on. It would also be much more efficient and effective to wage covert actions, like the Mossad did once upon a time, than the wasteful and dangerous asymmetric wars we have waged with their no-win rules of engagement. We need to be strictly out of the “Nation Building” business and strictly in the business of protecting the safety of the interests of the citizens of the United States. Special Operations forces are the ticket IF we ever again have the right commander.


29 posted on 11/06/2011 1:19:56 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I think Barry announced the death....but it was Plugs who announced the exact unit which did the mission.


30 posted on 11/06/2011 1:24:20 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
...his youngest wife, Amal, who was screaming as he pushed her in front of him.

True to Muslim tradition to the end.

31 posted on 11/06/2011 1:26:54 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Jesse Ventura was a SEAL


32 posted on 11/06/2011 1:30:05 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: lacrew

seems to me they had to drag Obummer in off a golf course and that he wasn’t particularly enthused about the whole mission.


33 posted on 11/06/2011 1:30:38 PM PST by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

More likely 90 seconds from the “eyes on” geronimo call.


34 posted on 11/06/2011 1:30:46 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: JayVee
“seems to me they had to drag Obummer in off a golf course and that he wasn’t particularly enthused about the whole mission.”

I agree - he looked ‘outside of the action’ in the situation room photo. Actually in a golf shirt, off to the side, no laptop open in front of him. No pad of paper...nothing but a spectator.

But he sure did a quick victory lap...I think he went to FT Campbell to congratulate himself in a speech, etc.

35 posted on 11/06/2011 1:36:53 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Are you assuming that he was standing?


36 posted on 11/06/2011 1:37:29 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: RC2

If OB wins another term, he’ll travel the middle east and after bowing, he’ll tell the various dictators he instructed the military to not kill Bin laden, but the seals got too aggressive. He’ll apologize just like he does for everything else we’ve done he can’t stand.


37 posted on 11/06/2011 1:40:30 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: luvbach1

BTTT!


38 posted on 11/06/2011 1:45:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

“I’ve been a Seal for 30 years and I never heard the words ‘kill mission’.”

I believe the proper term is “Direct Action” mission.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. :)


39 posted on 11/06/2011 1:47:42 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
It's an insult to all our brave warriors in uniform to have a CIC the likes of zero. Just pathetic
40 posted on 11/06/2011 1:53:19 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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