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To: Mase

Your comments, and others’, are in general degrading to people who choose to do things differently than you. Someone chooses to vaccinate on a different schedule than what the CDC calls for so they are “luddites”. Someone else chooses to drink raw milk so they’re “stupid” or “nuts”. Truth is it’s none of your business. Vaccinate your kid, give them pasteurized milk and shut up about it. Comments like yours leave no room for your position to not be the right answer. Do you think the CDC and government in general are right all the time and generally care about each person’s individual welfare? I don’t.

The fact is, we could go back and forth all day with research that shows vaccines are completely safe and research that shows they’re not. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle; I won’t call you can idiot for vaccinating your kid on the CDC schedule, even though it may not be what I choose for my baby. I could call your research suspect and you could call mine suspect. But I detest the “if it’s good for one, it’s good for everyone” attitude that so many people have towards vaccines and medicine. It is documented that some people react severly to vaccines; rarely, but it does happen. If a parent knows of some family history that makes them suspect that their child may have a poor reaction, or just think that an immature immune system of a 2 month old should not be subjected to 8 vaccines in one visit (as the CDC schedule calls for) it’s their prerogative to weigh the risk/benefit and decide what they think is best.


113 posted on 11/04/2011 12:02:45 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

“”Someone chooses to vaccinate on a different schedule than what the CDC calls for so they are “luddites””

Mace chooses name calling over playing nice. He can’t be bothered answering legitimate questions.

I wonder if he’ll volunteer his children or grandchildren for the Anthrax vaccine testing.


115 posted on 11/04/2011 1:17:31 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Roos_Girl
Your comments, and others’, are in general degrading to people who choose to do things differently than you

It has nothing to do with me, although you desperately want to make it that way. There are experts in vaccinations who have analyzed the data, understand the risks and benefits, and have set the schedule based on that expertise and knowledge. I agree with them. Dr. Sears, and you apparently, do not agree with the experts. Sears is not an expert. He just pretends to be one so he can sell books to unsuspecting and confused people. That places him pretty low on the pole. Why anyone listens to him is a mystery, but there they are. Whaddyagonnado?

Someone else chooses to drink raw milk so they’re “stupid” or “nuts”.

I don't care if you drink raw milk. Just don't try and tell me that it prevents disease or helps your immune system. Those are lies. There is no benefit to drinking raw milk vs. pasteurized milk. That being the case, why would you do so? I really don't care one way or another. Irrational behavior has always been a curiosity to me.

People who give raw milk to young children, with vulnerable and still developing immune systems, are taking unnecessary chances for no good reason. That makes them less than intelligent. It happens all the time and there is nothing I can do about it, and there is nothing I want to do about it -- other than pointing out their stupidity. I can't prevent stupidity nor do I think the government can. Pointing it out upsets you for some reason. Sorry. Any fool can be a parent, but you need a license to go fishing. Go figure.

Comments like yours leave no room for your position to not be the right answer.

Let's see....vaccinations create a herd immunity among society making everyone safer from diseases that used to savage the population. Doesn't sound controversial to me at all. Let's try again....there are no benefits to drinking raw milk vs. pasteurized milk so taking on that risk isn't rational. Again, not all that controversial. You see it that way, but that's only because you're being emotional.

Do you think the CDC and government in general are right all the time and generally care about each person’s individual welfare? I don’t.

The facts are what they are. You can either choose to accept them or deny them. Either way, I really don't care. If you had some information to refute the information from the CDC, you'd offer it. I disagree with the CDC, the FDA, the USDA, the NIH, the NAC, the IOM, the FBI, the CIA and many other government agencies all the time. But when they're right, I admit it. I don't bash them simply because they're government agencies. Sometime they're right. A rational person can admit it when they do happen to get it right, right?

The fact is, we could go back and forth all day with research that shows vaccines are completely safe and research that shows they’re not

You're making stuff up again. I never said vaccines were completely safe. No one else did either. You're the only one making that claim. I do remember saying that all medicines come with risks and benefits. You should be careful when erecting such large straw men, they could topple and crush you.

But I detest the “if it’s good for one, it’s good for everyone” attitude that so many people have towards vaccines and medicine.

Whatever. If you do take issue with what the experts are telling you don't you think you should base that decision on something other than the anti-science offered by a guy like Dr. Sears? I mean, it is your family we're talking about here.

immature immune system of a 2 month old should not be subjected to 8 vaccines in one visit (as the CDC schedule calls for) it’s their prerogative to weigh the risk/benefit and decide what they think is best.

Did you see the photo of the two month old suffering from tetanus in the article I linked? Click on a youtube video of a young child suffering from pertussis. If you're going to take that risk with your child, you should probably have something more than the advice of internet charlatans and book sellers to base your opinion on. The experts are lined up against your kind of thinking. But you go on believing you know more than they do. You will, unfortunately, always have plenty of company.

127 posted on 11/04/2011 3:02:41 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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