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To: Roos_Girl
Right, and none of those bacteria are present in pasteurized milk.

Could be. The quantity of bacteria would be an important thing to know, don't you think? Pasteurization effectively and consistently eliminates more than 90% of the harmful organisms in milk. Does raw milk ensure adequate destruction of common pathogens? According to the CDC, raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak.

My husband got undulant fever from *gasp* pasteurized milk, when he was a kid.

My neighbor got brucellosis from raw milk when he was 10 years old. He almost died and was sick for six months. He had to repeat 4th grade and was never the same. His life as a kid sucked thanks to the raw milk served to him by his stupid parents.

I don’t understand why people can’t see there are risks and benefits to *everything*. To act like vaccines are completely safe for every person, or that raw milk is *always* unsafe, or that pasteurized milk is *always* safe is illogical.

Maybe you could point out where I (or anyone else who favors legitimate science) ever said any such thing. Or are you just making stuff up?

105 posted on 11/04/2011 11:23:37 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Your comments, and others’, are in general degrading to people who choose to do things differently than you. Someone chooses to vaccinate on a different schedule than what the CDC calls for so they are “luddites”. Someone else chooses to drink raw milk so they’re “stupid” or “nuts”. Truth is it’s none of your business. Vaccinate your kid, give them pasteurized milk and shut up about it. Comments like yours leave no room for your position to not be the right answer. Do you think the CDC and government in general are right all the time and generally care about each person’s individual welfare? I don’t.

The fact is, we could go back and forth all day with research that shows vaccines are completely safe and research that shows they’re not. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle; I won’t call you can idiot for vaccinating your kid on the CDC schedule, even though it may not be what I choose for my baby. I could call your research suspect and you could call mine suspect. But I detest the “if it’s good for one, it’s good for everyone” attitude that so many people have towards vaccines and medicine. It is documented that some people react severly to vaccines; rarely, but it does happen. If a parent knows of some family history that makes them suspect that their child may have a poor reaction, or just think that an immature immune system of a 2 month old should not be subjected to 8 vaccines in one visit (as the CDC schedule calls for) it’s their prerogative to weigh the risk/benefit and decide what they think is best.


113 posted on 11/04/2011 12:02:45 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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