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Md. court to decide feeding-tube case pitting patient’s wife against his mother and brother
The Washington Post ^ | 10/31/2011

Posted on 11/01/2011 7:58:26 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue

FREDERICK, Md. — A judge in Maryland must decide if a man who suffered severe brain damage after a heart attack should continue getting sustenance through a feeding tube at his mother’s and brother’s behest, contrary to his wife’s instructions.

A Frederick County Circuit Court judge will hear arguments Wednesday in the case involving Daniel Sanger, 55, of Rohrersville. The unemployed computer technician lost much of his speaking ability and mobility after a heart attack in July, according to his brother Mark Sanger, a Eugene, Ore., businessman.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: wagglebee

“The pro-life community is fairly well divided on the issue of capital punishment.”

That’s what I thought. That’s why it puzzled me when you assured me that there was universal total agreement.


81 posted on 11/01/2011 2:10:57 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Here’s your answer, troll: zot.


82 posted on 11/01/2011 2:11:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

I think you know well what “disinterested” means - doesn’t mean “not interested”, it means “without bias”.


83 posted on 11/01/2011 2:14:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jim Robinson; darkwing104; TheOldLady

A well deserved one, for quite some time!


84 posted on 11/01/2011 2:15:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: swain_forkbeard
"Sooner rather than later if we cede decision-making to the state instead of the family."

Amen to that. And I wouldn't be all that certain the result would be a pulling of DNR plugs. The state has shown a propensity for spending absurd amounts to create/save jobs.

85 posted on 11/01/2011 2:17:57 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: swain_forkbeard; 50mm; darkwing104; Old Sarge

86 posted on 11/01/2011 2:23:56 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Sooner rather than later if we cede decision-making to the state instead of the family.

Don't bother. You are completely clueless about the point I'm making. You've already been body-snatched by accepting the faulty premise that the provision of basic nutrition can be withheld at the whim of another.

A newborn baby cannot feed itself, but by your theory a mother has no obligation to feed it if she deems it "extraordinary".

BTW, your example of starving people not being given food doesn't wash. These people are capable of picking up the food and feeding themselves if the food is put in front of them. We are talking about those who are physically unable to feed themselves. But I think you knew that...

87 posted on 11/01/2011 2:29:54 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Shethink13

Old Swainy was very polished (although not as much as he thought he was) in dirty debating. People like him often have an exaggerated opinion of their own intellectual superiority and enjoy “toying” with us rubes.


88 posted on 11/01/2011 2:32:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee; surroundedbyblue; All

Yes. He seemed to have a rather high opinion of himself, which was clearly unsupported.


89 posted on 11/01/2011 2:36:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

90 posted on 11/01/2011 2:37:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Old Sarge; wagglebee; little jeremiah; surroundedbyblue; All

He’ll be back.


91 posted on 11/01/2011 2:42:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Way too much self-esteem. Or as I like to say, a head of steam, about to blow!


92 posted on 11/01/2011 3:35:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim!
93 posted on 11/01/2011 4:02:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Another sad case.

Piece of advice to everyone, regardless of whether you are 20 or 90. Call a lawyer who practices in your state, and make sure you have a will, power of attorney, and patient advocate forms that comply with your state's laws. Preferably one who works in estate practice.

Under Maryland law, Leta Sanger can make her husband’s medical decisions because he did not put his wishes in legal documents and did not appoint someone else to be a decision-maker.

(sighs). That's the big problem.

Here's the thing I don't get. If his wife can't handle it, and his mom and brother want to keep him alive on the feeding tube, why not get a divorce and put them as guardian. While I am not a fan of divorce, it's better than trying to guess what his wishes are. Is this his last wishes, or is this murder for convenience just like abortion. I believe when there's a question, it is right to err on the side of life as long as there is not extraordinary care (machines, respirators, brain dead). I do not include feeding tubes in that classification, and dehydration is one of the worst ways to go.

94 posted on 11/01/2011 4:03:58 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Note the cushy statement from the Hospice person about having your wishes put in writing so families don’t need to be torn apart blah blah blah. Are you serious??? So I need to write down that my damily isn’t allowed to starve me to death? Unreal.

Yes. Bigtime. Preferably drawn up by an attorney, or better yet, an estate planning/probate attorney. In fact, you should call him or her tomorrow.

Depending on the state, if you are incapacitated, a guardian will be appointed to make medical decisions for you. A patient advocate form (sometimes called advanced directives or medical power of attorney) will have you "choose the guardian" and also "make your wishes known" on when to pull the plug, and when not to, and what is considered extraordinary care. That takes decisions away from the judges and protects you from harm due to mistakes or in the worst cases (Michael Schiavo) malice.

95 posted on 11/01/2011 4:16:45 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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To: Shethink13
How soon do you suppose it will be before explicit written directives will be ignored for the "greater good"?

That's what scares me the most about Obamacare. The "end of life" so called "counseling" provisions thrown in there. With our deficit and aging population, I'm afraid I might have to go to court and do my best to stop certain "business decisions" made on this stuff involving family.

96 posted on 11/01/2011 4:30:07 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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To: swain_forkbeard

97 posted on 11/01/2011 5:21:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: swain_forkbeard; little jeremiah

I know he’s zot, but if a man does not know the difference between disinterested (unbiased) and uninterested (not caring), he deserves to go for that alone.

One cannot have an intellectual discussion with someone who does not have at least a fair vocabulary.


98 posted on 11/01/2011 5:26:54 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

Especially from someone who acts as though he’s the Smartest Person in the room! Or the whole house even.


99 posted on 11/01/2011 5:37:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: swain_forkbeard; Jim Thompson; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; ...


So long, swain_forkbeard (Posting History)

Hat Tip to onyx and little jeremiah

Pro-death troll argues his case to Jim Thompson and winds up a pile of smoking bones at the feet of The Man Himself





Choose life

           
Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

100 posted on 11/01/2011 6:04:26 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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