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Have Glock, Will Travel (New York Times Columnist Up in Arms)
New York Times ^ | 10/24/2011 | Frank Bruni

Posted on 10/30/2011 7:12:56 AM PDT by goldstategop

New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey and several other states don’t have reciprocity arrangements that allow someone like Todd to pay an armed courtesy call. That’s because New York officials can deny concealed-carry permits on a case-by-case basis, whereas many other states — South Dakota, for example — don’t put much stock in such scrutiny.

H.R. 822, now in the House Judiciary Committee, makes a mockery of our diverse values and strategies for public safety. If it were enacted, off to New York the South Dakotan tourist could go, 9-millimeter Glock in tow.

That’s not liberty. More like lunacy.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; frankbruni; nationalrecirpocity; newyorktimes; righttocarry; rkba; secondamendment
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You know liberals. They want uniform federal rights - except for gun owners. To them, that's lunacy.

Go figure.

1 posted on 10/30/2011 7:13:00 AM PDT by goldstategop
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"That’s not liberty. More like lunacy."

The "lunacy" would be why does someone who lives in SD even want to go to NYC? Perhaps the perps in NYC would be more respectful of out-of-towners?

2 posted on 10/30/2011 7:17:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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When he’s in New York working for the NY Times, I’ll bet Frank Bruni stays out of parts of Harlem, Brooklyn, and the South Bronx. Let somebody else be mugged and shot with an illegal weapon, the only kind most New Yorkers are allowed to carry.


3 posted on 10/30/2011 7:17:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: goldstategop

A 9mm? Pretty light...Noo Yawk would be .45 territory, imho.


4 posted on 10/30/2011 7:21:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Cicero

I’m sure he can get a permit with his political views and connections to City Hall.

Most New Yorkers will never be able to pack heat because Bloomberg thinks only the elites deserve self-protection.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 7:21:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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They want power concentrated in reporters, lawyers and politicians, not individuals.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 7:23:36 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: goldstategop
"If it were enacted, off to New York the South Dakotan tourist could go, 9-millimeter Glock in tow. That’s not liberty. More like lunacy."

The lunacy is being required to surrender arms and render yourself defenseless when merely crossing into another state. Despite, being thoroughly vetted and authorized by duly constituted state and federal law enforcement entities to acquire, posses, and carry.
7 posted on 10/30/2011 7:23:45 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: goldstategop

Heaven forbid we should allow the little people to protect themselves while traveling from one state to another.


8 posted on 10/30/2011 7:24:11 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Exactly.

Bruni is a liar. In New York City, the permitting system is hopelessly corrupt. If you don’t have political connections, financial clout or aren’t a celebrity, don’t bother to apply.

That’s the way its been there for a century.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 7:26:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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He was up in arms the first time this was posted, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2797622/posts


10 posted on 10/30/2011 7:27:59 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: PowderMonkey

Federal and state law enforcement officials can already carry concealed nationwide, regardless of local law. Liberals just don’t want the little people to have the same right cops do!


11 posted on 10/30/2011 7:29:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I don’t know which is more astonishing: A Lib having a 10 Amendment epiphany, or the idea that someone from South Dakota would ever want to visit NYC.

We live in strange times.

Of course, the New Yorkers probably did prefer those nicely appointed, cultured British troops occupying their fair city throughout much of the Revolutionary War anyway, rather than Washington’s surrounding riffraff. Sad day for them, I suppose, when the Brits sailed away.


12 posted on 10/30/2011 7:30:54 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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13 posted on 10/30/2011 7:32:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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You posted it in General Chat. Sorry I didn’t see it come up when I searched for it.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 7:33:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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but they want universal exception for fagot marriage...
15 posted on 10/30/2011 7:37:56 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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"..In New York City, the permitting system is hopelessly corrupt..."

Sullivan Act

"....Named for its primary legislative sponsor, state senator Timothy Sullivan, a notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall politician, it dates to 1911, and is still in force, making it one of the older existing gun control laws in the United States..."

16 posted on 10/30/2011 7:39:27 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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The main motive for the law was to keep guns out of the hands of a rising immigrant and black population.

Now its used by the elite to keep the rif-raff from competing with their exclusive monopoly on gun ownership in New York City.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 7:43:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Of course Bruni would expect the Constitution’s ‘full faith and credit’ provision to apply to gay marriage.

I wonder why.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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You know liberals. They want uniform federal rights - except for gun owners. To them, that's lunacy.

Situation Ethics. Carte Blanche for liberals to do anything at anytime. And always be right.

Situation ethics means there is no requirement to be consistent in your beliefs. Right for me is wrong for you. Wrong today is right tomorrow.

19 posted on 10/30/2011 7:45:25 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: goldstategop

I suggest that concealed carry rights are granted in the federal constitution, by the Privileges and Immunities clause. States have no rights to deny Privileges and Immunities granted by other states.

Concealed carry is a privilege granted by your state, right?

I would look forward to seeing a SCOTUS case seeking redress: federal denial of the ability of another state to deny your CCW privilege.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 7:50:19 AM PDT by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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