Posted on 10/29/2011 11:42:03 AM PDT by Innovative
Former presidential candidate and current media mogul Steve Forbes said Thursday the Texas Republican governor Rick Perry is likely to capture the Republican presidential nomination.
"He was good on taxes and spending in Texas; he was very good on tort reform. Texas has been a cesspool for injury lawyers, and he made major changes - and the proof of it was they all moved to Oklahoma. And obviously I like his ideas on a flat tax. I think he genuinely wants to get the thing done. So it seems to be a good combination," Mr. Forbes said in an interview with the Daily Beast Thursday.
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Johnnie, Johnnie, Johnnie! You seem to find everyone ignorant. It is a very disagreeable and cowardly approach to debate. Just relax. You are proving yourself a pompous, overblown, arrogant jerk with every post. I hope that wasn’t too personal. But you may dismiss it, given your obvious deep intellectual superiority and your total knowledge of the intelligence and capabilities of each new person you call a fool.
“Try actually forming your own opinions for a change instead of waiting for someone else to tell you what to think.”
OK. I think you are an ass. That is a well informed opinion, based on your character traits and your inability to make an accurate assessment of my reasoning abilities, since you have absolutely no base of knowledge about my education, background and ability to reason.
No, Steve, Herman Cain will.
Empowerment Zones are intended to reverse the adverse effects of socialism (the projects) and other failed utopia programs that have created and sustained the slums. Reagan also embraced this idea. These areas are given some temporary reduce taxation to attract private business commerce to boost the economic depression geographically until they get a foot hold in the free market. The free market works every time it is tried.
“Empowerment Zones are intended to reverse the adverse effects of socialism (the projects) and other failed utopia programs that have created and sustained the slums.”
Well thank you, I needed that refresher course. So you are suggesting that we social engineer to undo the social engineering? Quite conservative, Very sound. Reagan supported them? He was also a Democrat. We all make mistakes, don’t we?
“These areas are given some temporary reduce taxation to attract private business commerce to boost the economic depression geographically until they get a foot hold in the free market. The free market works every time it is tried.”
In this case, of course, the free market would be thwarted. Gentrification works well in many areas, I’m told. That is known as a Free Market Enterprise Zone. Foreclosures and rebuilding does wonders for blight.
Great timing with that reply. I just had a call from the RNC trying to get money from me. I told the guy that the RNC doesn’t represent me. He asked me, “In what way does the RNC not represent you?” I said, “When they use my money to support someone like Dede Scozzafava, for example.” He asked, “Who’s Dede Scozzafava?” I replied, “Yeah, I bet that’s what Newt Gingrich would like to say right about now too.” I laughed at him and hung up.
Problem with Perry’s tax plan are numerous.
Perry’s plan is a “what do I need to say to get votes” plan rather then “what do we need to do to fix the tax code” plan.
It does not broaden the tax base thus leaving the current system of payers and payees in play for future political exploitation.
It keeps in place the corrupt practice of playing favorites in the tax code by still granting special exemptions. This is the greatest flaw in Perry’s plan. He leaves in the politically popular exemptions to pander to certain voter blocks. It the best example of where his plan is not a serious attempt to address the fundamental problems in the tax code but a political gimmick designed to rejuvenate his flagging campaign.
It maintains the current focus on taxing income instead of consumption thus punishing the producers at the expense of the users.
It leaves in place the current ability for trust funds and the massively wealthy to avoid paying any tax by structuring their payouts in forms other then income.
It does nothing to tap the underground off the books economy.
So while Perry’s “sort of flat tax” is an improvement over the current system, it is merely tinkering with the existing tax code while leaving in place the same corrupt, flawed foundation.
Of the two, Cain’s 9-9-9 is the much better plan
Steve Forbes: Rick Perry will win the Republican nomination
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Memo to Steve Forbes: Lay down the crack pipe.
Forbes is another open borders/amnesty moron. Of course he would want Perry.
Howdy freaken doodie or anyone else besides Mitt and obammy.
I hope you’re right - and that he doesn’t even make it as VP. It’s possible that he just has a big propaganda machine going for him that makes him seem further ahead than he is; if nothing else, he does have bunches of bucks.
I don’t hate Cain. I think he’s a decent person, but he simply has NO governing or legislative or political experience. As for his conservative positions, he doesn’t have a track record to judge them by. Ronald Reagan was an actor, but he had been governor of California for quite some time before he ran for President and he had a track record.
I think it’s unlikely that Cain will get the nomination, unless as Romney’s VP, and I think then he would just be a source of some good one-liners - and lots of stumbles during the campaign. But the GOP head honchos probably hope that he’d liven it up, because he is at least likeable, unlike Romney. In any case, I wouldn’t vote for anybody associated with Romney, so this is all immaterial anyway.
I didn’t say you hated Cain. I said it’s hateful, in light of his life experiences and accomplishments, to call him inexperienced and glib. Being a politician is not the only way to get experience, and who are you to write Mr. Cain off as glib? Those who know him best agree that he means what he says and says what he means.
Otoh, I agree w you. Cain doesn’t have the experience of bouncing around on a sofa w Pelosi, nor does he have the depth required to back a Dem loving Rino [Scozzafaza] over a good, solid tea party candidate. In both those senses, Gingrich is way ahead of Cain.
I sure hope you’re right about Romney!
I think the thing with Cain is that people are seeing him as a sort of “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” type, and believe that his lack of political experience gives him an edge and will make him purer and more committed. Personally, I don’t think it will; I just think it makes him more vulnerable to political manipulation by people who do have experience (and that’s going to be everybody else in DC except him). I think he’d be unlikely to win the general election in any case, because the Dems would make an issue of his lack of experience and he would, I’m afraid, fall into their traps because he sometimes seems to forget that this is not just his radio show anymore, and he opens his mouth without really having given a lot of thought to what he is going to say. But we shall see.
I keep hoping that some other candidate will come forward, and do well, but I guess the “front runners” we have now are all that we will have.
I’m talking about political experience and governing experience, of which Cain has none. He once unsuccessfully ran for office, and that’s it. As for the glibness, he’s somebody who has had his own radio show, and that’s simply one of the things that goes with the territory.
I don’t mean that he’s cynical and doesn’t believe the things that he says, but simply that he doesn’t always think before he speaks and things come out as sound-bites (which is precisely why he was so successful in the “debates”). Some of the worse ones, such as the electric fence on the border, he has had to walk back, but I think that if he actually does get to be the candidate, you’re going to see every blooper magnified to enormous proportions.
Gingrich did accomplish the “Contract with America,” btw, and was fine until dumped by the GOP when the Dems attacked him in revenge. Why he backed Scozzafava, I don’t know, and he should certainly be asked about this; IIRC, that was a very chaotic election for a variety of reasons. But by that token, why did Cain support Romney in the last GOP primaries?
As for sitting on the sofa with Pelosi, I can assure you that Cain would have done exactly the same thing if he had been invited to do so.
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