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Hawaii Couple's Daughter Taken Away for 18 Hours Over Alleged Sandwich Theft
foxnews.com ^ | 10-29-11

Posted on 10/29/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 10/29/2011 7:32:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Hawaii couple

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: cps; hawaii; safeway; sandwich
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To: rawhide
I've eaten food in a Safeway before paying for it and I've finished bottles of water and soda before paying for it in Safeway. Every time I've asked permission from a Safeway employee and each time I've been granted permission.

I leave any empty containers in the cart until I pay for everything at checkout and have had no problems. Perhaps this was an innocent mistake, perhaps not, there's no way to know for sure. Still, I think the Safeway manager made the wrong decision.

61 posted on 10/29/2011 8:51:33 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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62 posted on 10/29/2011 8:51:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: poobear
My Publix

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63 posted on 10/29/2011 8:52:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: rawhide

A lot of confusing reporting going on here.

The original story (http://www.khon2.com/mostpopular/story/Makiki-couple-arrested-over-5-sandwich/h-yUAH_SuEOvm_PZfXUcZA.cspx) says, “A couple’s three-year-old daughter was taken away from them for 18 hours after being arrested for forgetting to pay for a $5 sandwich while grocery shopping.”

*A* $5 sandwich. Also no where does it say the husband ate anything. The mother does say “we”, but that could easily include the 3yo. Giving a child a few bites would be entirely normal if a mom was having a sandwich.

There’s a lot left out of the story like where were the wrappers. Still, it seems entirely out of proportion to seize a 3yo over a $5 sandwich. If an arrest needed to be made, take the father. It’s ridiculous to put a child through CPS for $5.


64 posted on 10/29/2011 8:52:19 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas
She must've felt really dizzy, if it required two sandwiches to cure.
65 posted on 10/29/2011 8:54:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: momtothree

Exactly,

The store manager wanted to go to the extreme then.
Shame on him, the woman was pregnant. Pregnant women are going through a lot of issues already. She may have been anemic and needed to eat.


66 posted on 10/29/2011 8:55:32 AM PDT by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: rawhide

When I was a kid, about 8 or 9 I think, I shoplifted a neat little flashlight from a store called Grants that was an old chain up in Michigan. The store security officer busted me, dragged me and mom into the back office and proceeded to file a full report and called the cops over a $2 toy.

Since that day I have never so much as put my hands in my pockets while shopping, much less eat anything I haven’t paid for yet for fear of being stopped and humiliated again. That was almost 40 years ago and I still get sick at the idea of someone even suspecting I was stealing. Getting busted and humiliated that one time was the best lesson I think I ever had.

Also the manager might have followed the company policy of zero tolerance, the owners might have instructed him to do exactly what he did and he had no choice in the matter, that’s how its handled where my wife works.

Either way the store is rightfully going to take a big hit on this publicity I think.


67 posted on 10/29/2011 8:58:12 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: 1rudeboy
Thank you for the summarized list of excuses.

Yep...some of the folks in this thread would have you believe it IS alright to steal.

68 posted on 10/29/2011 8:59:28 AM PDT by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: Graybeard58

When my kids were little, several times I pushed my cart out of the store without paying for something in the cart. Each time it was entirely unintentional. (And, each time I trudged my kids and I back in the store to pay for the item.)

It happens.


69 posted on 10/29/2011 9:00:44 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: mom4kittys

“... needed to eat”.

Two sandwiches for a 7 month pregnant woman is within the scope of reason. If she had skipped breakfast and was doing errands.. absolutely. Your blood sugar can get all wacky during pregnancy. Dizziness and lightheadedness would be a reasonable result. I just think if the manager had asked her... one simple question, “Did you eat anything in the store on your shopping trip?” then all of this would not have taken place IMHO.


70 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:04 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: FourPeas

Did you eat the stuff before leaving?


71 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: moovova

I don’t think she was stealing—I think she forgot. She was pregnant and needed to eat. It is as simple as that.
She paid for her groceries, how hard could it have been to ask her to pay for the item she forgot without going to this extreme?
World is full of a-holes.


72 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:07 AM PDT by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: 1rudeboy

Where does it say there were TWO sandwiches?


73 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:22 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: moovova

stealing is determined by intent, you on your high horse. Glad you are so clear minded you never goof up. Shopping with a 3 year old alone is enough to make a mom go wacky. After my 3 year old walked the minicart through the line and out into the parking lot while I was frantically looking for him, I ordered my groceries in for years.


74 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:59 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Abathar
I'm not shopping at the local Safeway today nor tomorrow ~ we'll quit going there for a few weeks.

That's not because I fear they'll arrange for a police kidnapping or something (my youngest is a big guy and over 6 ft tall), but I might make a mistake and don't want them messing with me.

Look, if they'll drag a 30 week pregnant woman to a prison and hand her children over to strangers, imagine what they'll do to an old fart ~ just not worth the risk.

75 posted on 10/29/2011 9:03:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Allegra

I do that with the sodas in the cold boxes by the register. Pick one up, take a few sips, and pay for it on the way out with everything else.
My daughter was fussy when little so I would take a box of fruit snacks, open a pack, and the whole box went in my cart to be paid for on the way out.
I think alot of people do stuff like that.


76 posted on 10/29/2011 9:03:27 AM PDT by sheana
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To: FourPeas

Uh, the very first sentence.


77 posted on 10/29/2011 9:03:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: muawiyah

Safeway has an attorney on a retainer whether they need to use his services or not. I’ve had it UP TO HERE with freeloaders, and I hope Safeway has the backbone to not cave to these leeches.


78 posted on 10/29/2011 9:03:58 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: FourPeas

Her blog. Two $2.50 sandwiches.


79 posted on 10/29/2011 9:04:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Beelzebubba
I used to find empty wrappers and bottles all over the store on a daily basis. Many of the shoplifters you catch just "forgot" they had the goods. It adds up fast.

It doesn't matter what their intent was, it was an extremely stupid thing to do and stupid actions often have unpleasant consequences.

80 posted on 10/29/2011 9:04:06 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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