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Hawaii Couple's Daughter Taken Away for 18 Hours Over Alleged Sandwich Theft
foxnews.com ^ | 10-29-11

Posted on 10/29/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 10/29/2011 7:32:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Hawaii couple

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: cps; hawaii; safeway; sandwich
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To: moovova

I never said either way did I?

You sound like a very miserable person and I am so glad not to have the pleasure to know you.


121 posted on 10/29/2011 9:46:08 AM PDT by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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To: netmilsmom
I'm guilty of taking one grape from a bunch to see if they are sweet. Tired of paying a fortune for a bunch of bad grapes. If the grape is sweet, I pick up a pkg, which is already priced, so I pay for the grape I ate, as well as the bunch. If it is sour, I walk away, having, in effect, stolen one grape. So sue me.

vaudine

122 posted on 10/29/2011 9:46:38 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: moovova; mom4kittys

Really, moovova. Just because you don’t agree with someone, why do you think you can judge a person’s parenting skills? Mom4kittys is judging this: “Was it the intent of this woman to “steal” two sandwiches? Does the fact that she lost custody of her little girl for 18 hours justified in this situation? Does the woman have a prior conviction for stealing, or was she trying to hide the fact that she ate two sandwiches? Was she offered the opportunity/reminder to pay for said items?

Most importantly, if people on FR actually question if this was a mistake and not a deliberate theft... imagine what a jury would do. Personally, I think the Safeway store will not only drop all charges but settle with this family. IMHO.


123 posted on 10/29/2011 9:59:32 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: bgill
You do NOT eat in the grocery store.

The only time we do is when they have the samples of various cooked foods at places like Sams or COSTCO and even HEB.

124 posted on 10/29/2011 10:02:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

i’ve eaten a pizza at Walmart before paying for it — the deli was closing, so they made me go up front to pay for the pizza slice, but I was still shopping and so I ate it while it was still hot. I paid for the box when I got to the checkout.


125 posted on 10/29/2011 10:06:59 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rawhide

My wife does something similar with our little boy. When she’s shopping with him, he’ll holler “snowflake roll - snowflake roll”, because he knows they are at the front of the store. To keep him busy and settled down, she’ll give him half a roll and put the other half with the rest of the rolls in the bag, then pays on the way out.

I showed her this article today and she said she’s going to stop doing that.

I don’t think these people in the story were being malicious. I honestly think they forgot. The store should have let them pay and warn them not to do something like this again. The store’s not a restaurant after all.


126 posted on 10/29/2011 10:09:28 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Abathar
Abathar wrote:

"When I was a kid, about 8 or 9 I think, I shoplifted a neat little flashlight from a store called Grants that was an old chain up in Michigan."

I shoplifted a watch band when I was a kid (in Michigan, too). My father saw it and took me back to the store and made me return it and apologize to the manager (who was also the owner).

Never did it again...

127 posted on 10/29/2011 10:14:18 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Magnatron

Shaming really does work as a punishment for most people. There are those that you can never reach that way of course, but for many first time offenders its all it takes to drive the message home and make it stick.


128 posted on 10/29/2011 10:17:41 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Magnatron

Magnatron, I’ve been shopping with little one and depending on my schedule... their lunch has been late. If your little boy is hungry, have your wife open a package of whatever and just make sure the box is in the cart. Either that or keep peanut butter or cheese crackers in her purse. It is all about common sense.


129 posted on 10/29/2011 10:20:43 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Beelzebubba

That wasn’t the store’s fault. They just reported a petty theft. They have no control over government over-reaction. I can’t believe the store owner expected the people would be jailed for it. And once they were jailed, their child would be taken by CPS.

CPS is the problem; along with the police. There was no reason to jail either parent, much less both parents. Book them on petty theft, and send them home. Or at worst, keep one and send the other home.

But I don’t fault the store owner. I’m sure EVERY person who leaves without paying have a great story about how they were going to pay, and forgot, or some other good excuse. And 99% of the time, those stories are just that — fairy tales.


130 posted on 10/29/2011 10:22:04 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Iscool

............(one cop to the other!) oh, uh, if we put em both in jail the kid will have to go to kid jail !!!!..................hmmm...........yeah.......uh............right!!!...............let’s go get a donut!!!

didn’t even one of these gov’t agents have a kid, good grief !!!

notwithstanding any of my comments on this thread.....the woman and man probably did not pay on purpose! But, the KID (live one) and the pregnancy for christ’s sake should have been given the benefit of the doubt!!


131 posted on 10/29/2011 10:25:13 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: vaudine

>>I’m guilty of taking one grape from a bunch to see if they are sweet.<<

I’m not really speaking of those who sample one of the bunch to find out if he/she wants to buy them. I’m talking about the seniors who “taste” nearly every bunch then pick a few more for good measure, the kids who’s mothers are chatting while Johnny or Janie munch away, or the people who stand in line eating grape after grape before the cashier weighs them. All of the above IS thief and I pay for those grapes in the bunch I pay for.


133 posted on 10/29/2011 11:22:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mom4kittys

>>Shame on him, the woman was pregnant. Pregnant women are going through a lot of issues already. She may have been anemic and needed to eat.<<

Please. As someone who lived through every pregnancy with toxemia and gestational diabetes, if you NEED to eat, you NEED to carry a snack.

She was pregnant, not dying. Please don’t make pregnancy out to be the status of victimhood. I’m not saying she needed to be taken to jail but pregnancy is not something to be used as an excuse.


134 posted on 10/29/2011 11:32:56 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: rawhide

Zero tolerance means no brain gets in the way.


135 posted on 10/29/2011 12:04:03 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rawhide

Me too that is just wrong and if they offered to pay for it because they did forget then it should’ve stopped then and there.As someone who suffers from type 1 diabetes there has been more than one time in my life that we have grabbed me something and paid for it on the way out because I wasn’t feeling well.I’d hate to think that if someone was really not a nice person that this could happen to me if I forgot?


136 posted on 10/29/2011 12:16:28 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You do if you have health issues that make you need to eat.It is either that or I pass out and have to be transported to the hospital causes more of an uproar.


137 posted on 10/29/2011 12:17:50 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: rawhide

They’re all in the wrong. You don’t pick up and eat a sandwich in the middle of a supermarket without paying for it.

What the store did to the daughter is unconscionable.


138 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:35 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: FlJoePa

...Not defending the market, but a pet peeve of mine is people eating in grocery stores. Not food courts, but in the aisles.

People that eat things that get weighed (like grapes) are simply stealing.......

I call that grazing, what animals do.
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139 posted on 10/29/2011 12:21:25 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: chris_bdba
Gee, since you know you have that issue, could you possibly plan ahead and have an emergency supply of food with you at all times?

I mean, what would happen if there were no food handy to steal?

You might die.

140 posted on 10/29/2011 12:31:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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