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1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful
Pure Energy Systems ^ | October 28, 2011 | Hank Mills

Posted on 10/28/2011 10:59:24 PM PDT by Kevmo



1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful
On October 28, 2011, Andrea Rossi demonstrated his 1 megawatt E-Cat system to his first customer, who had engineers/scientists on hand to test/validate its performance. Due to a glitch, it provided 470 kW of continuous power for 5.5 hours during the self-sustained mode.
Here I am with Andrea Ross after the test of the 1 MW E-Cat plant in the background.


By Sterling D. Allan (who was present), with Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News
Well, the big day has come and gone. Andrea Rossi's one-megawatt-capable E-Cat cold fusion device has been tested in Bologna, Italy; and the unknown customer, who ran the test, is apparently happy.


There were some issues, so it couldn't be run at full power in self-looped mode, but what it did do was plenty impressive.


It ran for 5.5 hours producing 470 kW, while in self-looped mode. That means no substantial external energy was required to make it run, because it kept itself running, even while producing an excess of nearly half a megawatt. Rossi explained the reasons for this in the presentation he gave, which I videotaped and will be posting later.


That's half the rated capacity, but it is still a major accomplishment for the device that was completed earlier this week -- the first of its kind on the planet.


Early in the day with a glitch showing up, Rossi said that they had to make a decision about whether to go for 1 MW output, not in self-sustain mode, or with self-sustain mode at a lower power level. The customer opted to go for the self-sustain mode. Nothing was said about the prospects of a follow-up test, though I would imagine that the customer will be running many tests to understand this gadget they have purchased, and that information will be conveyed to Rossi.


When I asked him during the Q&A session if the customer was satisfied with the test, Rossi responded, "Yes, I think they are satisfied."

Here is a brief video excerpt highlight from Rossi during his 1-hour reading of the public report from the customer, followed by a question and answer session. I recorded the entire presentation, and we'll post that tomorrow, hopefully along with a transcription. Half the time was in Italian, as he would address each item in Italian as well as English.


In this excerpt, Rossi responds to the question, "So, is this a breakthrough?"





Here's a transcription of the excerpt video:
Mister Sonya has asked me if I think that the test of today is a breakthrough. I think yes, because I think today we have seen enough. No more small five or ten kilowatt units, but now we have overcame the [cannot understand].... disconnected. The basic engineering to make something that....

You know, to go in self sustain mode and make 400 [actually 470] kilowatt hours per hour... To understand that this is a breakthrough...

You can also think that hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent to try to have a COP of 1.1 with nuclear fusion. Today we have made a theoretically endless COP making 470 kilowatt hour per hour of completely free energy, free of fuel. Yes, I think this is a breakthrough.

Of course this is the first step, but it is a very important first step....
Early this year Andrea Rossi announced his plans to construct and test the world's first one megawatt cold fusion plant. The plant would utilize his E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) technology that utilizes tiny quantities of nickel powder and hydrogen gas as fuel, while producing large amounts of energy in the form of heat. Importantly, the energy is produced without emitting any pollution, utilizing any radioactive materials, or producing any nuclear waste. Simply put, the E-Cat offers the world a source of cheap, safe, and clean energy. Although the exact plans for the launch of the technology were adjusted a few times throughout the course of this year, October 28th, 2011 was settled on for the date of the official test of the one megawatt plant by the first customer.


These first plants will cost around $2,000 per kilowatt to build one at a time, but once they are mass produced, Rossi expects the price to drop to around $100 per kilowatt installed.


Attendance at this test was limited for several reasons. First, the customer does not wish to be known at this time, nor to have its test engineers/scientists identified. I did not inadvertently discover the customer's identify, nor did I try to find out. I gave that group their space and did not probe. Second, the device is a nuclear device, and the regulations for a public demonstration are extremely stringent; so by making the event private, and only bringing one or two at a time to see it was a way to get around the safety requirements.


Most of us (around 30 guests total) arrived between 9 and 10 am; and by around 11 am, Rossi began taking people back to see the device while it was in operation, in self-sustained mode. Here's a video I shot, with Rossi's permission, during my 2-3 minute chance to see the unit during operation:


A neighboring facility, coincidentally, is named "Rossi", which is a common name in Italy.



Here I am with Mats Lewan and other Swedish associates.


Here I am with Peter Svensson from the AP

Professor Levi, who was Rossi's right-hand man today, will be heading the Bologna research on the E-Cat. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times.


There were 100 E-Cat modules, each with 3 reaction chambers in them, for a total of 300 reaction chambers. An additional 20 or so units had been installed on the top of the shipping container, compared to the earlier photos and videos we had seen. Steam was produced by the units and exited through the back in the bottom of the two pipes. The steam was not put to use to run a load but the heat was dumped via two radiators, distilled, and circulated back into the system. When looking inside the plant, I noticed that one of the E-Cat units had a little steam escaping from the front of it.


The top pipe in the back, which was closed, was for emergency cool-down, if needed.

Each unit was run independently through a computerized control. The input and output temperature readings were recorded by computer, and the data will be provided to us probably later this evening or tomorrow morning. When I went by there, I think the input was measuring 19 C, and the output was 109 C.


Radiation measurements were taken by Dr. Bianchini David, from the University of Bologna. He said no extraneous radiation was detected at any time emanating from the reaction chambers, or from the piping, or from the water tanks, or in the vicinity of the apparatus. Apparently, gamma radiation is produced during the reaction, which is shielded by water, iron, lead, and a final coating on the apparatus. David said that he has not measured gamma radiation from the device, because he has not had access to the reaction chamber while it has been unshielded.


None of the units were taken apart following this test, as was the one back on the October 6 test. I asked Rossi whether any radio frequencies were used in the test, and he said "no".


I would estimate that there were about 12 people assisting with the test arrangement, including: 3-4 security guards, 1 caterer, 2 receptionists who checked to make sure everyone was invited and wore the required badges, 3-4 engineers helping take measurements, Foccardi was helping take guests 1-2 at a time back to see the unit.


I especially enjoyed mingling with the other guests, including: Mats Lewan from NyTeknik; Irene Zreick from Focus.it; Peter Svensson, Technology Writer for the Associated Press, NY, who told me that the reason the mainstream press hasn't been covering this is because Rossi has been very picky about who he lets in; Enrico Billi, a nuclear physicist and friend of Rossi's, who is presently living in China and helping to open doors there for this technology; Professor Christos Stremmenos, from the University of Bologna, who told me all about his theory of how the technology works; Pierre Clauzon, nuclear engineering professor from France, who told me about several theoretical physicists trying to understand cold fusion in general and the E-Cat in particular; Uzikova Irina, a nuclear plant designer from Russia; Stefan Heglesson, representing a Swedish interest in the technology; Loris Ferrari, Associate Professor of Condensed Matter Physics from the University of Bologna, who will be one of the five professors to do the two year test of the E-Cat, which hopefully will be funded as a result of today's test. They will study both the "how" and the "why" of the technology.


Mats and I agreed to post our stories at the same time. Peter was going to go first, having been given an exclusive by Rossi, but it's going to be a few days before he gets the necessary info and editorial approvals before he's able to run a story in the Associated Press.

Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. "Where's the mystery?" So knock yourselves out, skeptics. It's the customer who has to be happy, and apparently this one was satisfied that those cables were not contributing to the 470 kW output during self-sustaining mode.


Here's a video where Rossi talks to us briefly following the test, saying that a report will come shortly; and giving us the reason for why we couldn't go back during the test except 1-2 at a time.

And here's a video of a couple of 1 MW generators that were in the room where we were hanging out, which were from an earlier project Rossi was involved with, running on biofuel.

# # #
Links
News:October 28, 2011 Test of the One Megawatt E-Cat (Our index page at PESWiki)
http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk - a link to download a file which contains the report about the test
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3303682.ece - Mat Lewans' story





TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; lenr
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To: dinodino

a typo is a typo

I’ve seen our technicians do some doozies like that.


381 posted on 11/02/2011 8:53:41 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

Without noticing or correcting it before public release?


382 posted on 11/02/2011 9:44:49 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino

Without noticing or correcting it before public release?
***I’ve seen technicians refuse to correct their typo mistakes. Not noticing is par for the course, especially if the time between notation and publication is so short. In the electronics industry, some typos survive for years.


383 posted on 11/02/2011 10:07:56 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
a typo is a typo I’ve seen our technicians do some doozies like that.

Interesting. If the 'kg' was a typo, then they used 1.5 grams of H2 for the 1MW test. That was EXACTLY the same amount they used for the 10/6 test which was 100x smaller in output. Since the 'reactors' are the same this means that H2 charge amount has nothing to do with power output. How do they control the power output?

384 posted on 11/02/2011 11:10:09 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Mountain. Molehill. Giving up on you. You know the rest. T4BTT


386 posted on 11/02/2011 11:18:05 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: NewinTexsas; Kevmo

NewinTexsas, stop trying to use your crazy logic and stuff on Kevmo! Don’t you understand how free energy works? </sarc>


387 posted on 11/02/2011 11:28:22 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino

If there is some way of debating FReepers in a legitimate fashion, I’m all for it.

I have pointed out dozens of logical fallacies coming from the seagull brigade. Those posts are not pulled.

In a court of law, when a lawyer uses too many fallacies he can get fined, removed, held in contempt, all kinds of things. But here, the logical fallacies are allowed to remain as well as other troll tactics which poison the well of legitimate discussion.


388 posted on 11/02/2011 11:45:53 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: NewinTexsas; Kevmo

Actually, I’d like to hear you address NewinTexas’ comment.

I’m still waiting for you to tell the class if you think that buying a “degree” from a diploma mill is acceptable to you. Apparently it is, because that’s what Rossi did, and you defend the guy to the death.


389 posted on 11/02/2011 12:14:25 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Kevmo
If there is some way of debating FReepers in a legitimate fashion, I’m all for it.

Hard to debate when your typical response to my points is that I am making a mountain out of a molehill or that it isn't worth the keystrokes to respond. Thank you.

390 posted on 11/02/2011 12:23:22 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: dinodino; Kevmo

“I’m still waiting for you to tell the class if you think that buying a “degree” from a diploma mill is acceptable to you. Apparently it is, because that’s what Rossi did, and you defend the guy to the death.”

If the institution that awarded you the fake diploma is shut down for fraud, is it still morally acceptable to advertize that degree?


391 posted on 11/02/2011 12:26:43 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Just look at your posts that led up to that response and everyone will see why I’m done with you.

T4BTT


392 posted on 11/02/2011 12:32:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: dinodino

I’m still waiting for you to tell the class if you think that buying a “degree” from a diploma mill is acceptable to you.
***I had a boss once with a degree like that. It didn’t . stop his boss from hiring him, and if I would have told him off I’d have been out of a job. No I do not think it is acceptable. It is just one data point among many. Oh, and I already addressed this on an earlier thread. If it weren’t for the seagull brigade we could have a good FAQ for FReepers to get acknowledged facts, but the seagulls cannot be trusted not to do their ‘business’ on such a thread. We’ve even had parallel threads, but the seagulls come over to ours rather than stay on their own.

Apparently it is, because that’s what Rossi did, and you defend the guy to the death.
***Wrong again. I’ve said stuff like Rossi sucks at giving demos. I was the one who posted the Petroldragon thread, and it was the seagulls who had a problem with that information.


393 posted on 11/02/2011 12:38:51 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

It’s one GIANT data point “among many,” as you put it.

If you are willing to falsify your academic credentials, what else are you willing to falsify?

Open your damned eyes.


394 posted on 11/02/2011 3:28:22 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Kevmo

It’s one GIANT data point “among many,” as you put it.

If you are willing to falsify your academic credentials, what else are you willing to falsify?

Open your damned eyes.


395 posted on 11/02/2011 3:28:26 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino

Another GIANT datapoint, “among many” is the Heat After Death events that Rossi has demonstrated.

Another is the Nobel Prize winning Physicist who went to bat for his technology.

Another is the 14,700 times the P-F effect has been generated.

Another is the LENR results that Focardi generated before his partnership with Rossi. Then, of course, there are the much more readily generated results afterwards.

If you are willing to look at data points, eventually one set of data overwhelms the other.


396 posted on 11/02/2011 5:49:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
Another GIANT datapoint, “among many” is the Heat After Death events that Rossi has demonstrated.

Demonstrated but not proven ...

Another is the Nobel Prize winning Physicist who went to bat for his technology.

Another Nobel Prize winning Physicist proclaimed energy from fusion in 1958. He later had to admit he was 'mistaken'.

Another is the 14,700 times the P-F effect has been generated.

P-F have been totally discredited.

Another is the LENR results that Focardi generated before his partnership with Rossi. Then, of course, there are the much more readily generated results afterwards.

What happened between Focardi's 1995 discovery and his union with Rossi? Why is Rossi now proclaiming that he discovered the process?

If you are willing to look at data points, eventually one set of data overwhelms the other.

If you are willing to overlook common sense, decent engineering, the fact that Rossi is a three-time scammer and if you either want to believe or have a vested interest ...

397 posted on 11/02/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Kevmo
Another is the Nobel Prize winning Physicist who went to bat for his technology.

How much money does your physicist make in the homeopathic medicine arena?

398 posted on 11/02/2011 8:32:02 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: dinodino; Kevmo

It gets better every day. Thanks to Kevmo, I found out that his Nobel Prize winning physicist that is supporting the e-cat scam is also a big time supporter of the homeopathic medicine scam!


399 posted on 11/02/2011 8:34:13 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas; dinodino

Demonstrated but not proven ...
***Then it is a data point.

Another Nobel Prize winning Physicist proclaimed
***Then you do not dispute the fact on the ground

P-F have been totally discredited.
***Opinion

What happened between Focardi’s 1995 discovery and his union with Rossi?
***Asking a question about a history lesson does not dispute the fact on the ground.

Why is Rossi now proclaiming that he discovered the process?
***He is not.

If you are willing to overlook common sense, decent engineering, the fact that Rossi is a three-time scammer and if you either want to believe or have a vested interest ...
***Just a casual glance at your responses shows that
you are not willing to accept facts on the ground. You seem to have a tremendous need to distort, obfuscate, and on many occasions, use classic fallacies.


400 posted on 11/02/2011 8:34:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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