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Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich agree to Lincoln-Douglas style debate in The Woodlands
Houston Chronicle ^ | 10/24/2011 | Richard Dunham

Posted on 10/24/2011 1:36:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

First, there were Lincoln and Douglas.

This year, we have Cain and Gingrich.

The two Georgians seeking the Republican nomination for president have accepted an invitation from the Texas Patriots PAC to meet in The Woodlands on Nov. 5 for a free-wheeling and moderator-free debate on the major issues in the 2012 presidential campaign.

The two participants — former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — have gained ground in the polls following their performance in the first eight debates of the GOP campaign season. But Gingrich in particular has been critical of what he considers “gotcha” questions from reporters and the nasty tone of the most recent debate in Las Vegas.

“This event is a response to remarks by Speaker Gingrich regarding his frustration with the format of the other presidential debates,” said Bill O’Sullivan, a Texas Tea Party Patriots PAC volunteer. “We believe this is the best opportunity for candidates to have substantive discussion since the Lincoln-Douglas Debates.”

Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas held a series of debates in 1858 when they were running for an Illinois Senate race. The debates became famous for the in-depth discuss of issues and the high level of political discourse. Democrat Douglas defeated Republican Lincoln in the 1858 Senate race. But Lincoln defeated Douglas and two other candidates in the 1860 presidential race.

The Cain-Gingrich event, sponsored by the Texas Tea Party Patriots PAC, will be held at 6 p.m. CST on Nov. 5 at The Woodlands Resort and Conference Center. The Patriots are based in The Woodlands.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; debate; gingrich; hermancain; lincolndouglas; newt; newtgingrich; texas; thewoodlands; tx
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To: fudimo
Awesome analogy, especially on the heels of a long awaited Win by my man in the 33.
61 posted on 10/24/2011 7:03:07 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: livius
"Let’s hear some real ideas and some real discussion."

Hear, hear. Why are others not jumping at this? I would think Perry would want to try a different approach.

62 posted on 10/24/2011 7:17:51 PM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: Cato in PA
"But after giving it some thought, I changed my mind. Newt is the best debater of the candidates, and he could destroy Cain, but will he? I doubt it. He’s too smart to get overly aggressive. Remember how he likes to steer debate conversations toward Obama?"

BINGO. Your thinking paralleled mine exactly. I first thought "uh-oh" for Cain, but you're right. Newt would NOT make Cain look bad. First, because Cain's a pretty darned good debater himself. Second because he wouldn't want to alienate the Cain supporters. And third because, as you said, he's clearly made a decision (for lots of reasons I imagine) to focus on Obummer.

I PRAY this is televised somwehere, somehow.

I'm about a 5 hour drive away (in Longview, TX) and am seriously thinking about driving down!

Hank

63 posted on 10/24/2011 7:25:10 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Wife of D28Man
I, for one, would love to see the old Senate dogs have to defer to Gingrich presiding over the Senate - and breaking any tie votes.

Me too! He'd slice and dice 'em.

64 posted on 10/24/2011 7:27:06 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64
"I would presume that Newt is going to debate Romney?"

Ummm... no. The topic is:

"Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich agree to Lincoln-Douglas style debate in The Woodlands"

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OK, but surely you can see how that would be confusing. ;-)

Hank

65 posted on 10/24/2011 7:44:04 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Cobra64

Agree. Nothing I’ve seen from Cain tells me that’s his style. Besides which, it would be stupid at this point and in this venue...and Cain’s not stupid.

Hank


66 posted on 10/24/2011 7:47:58 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

I do hope it happens. I think at some point the Repubs (the organization or 2 people of Republican persuasion) have to do something like this to break the MSM stranglehold on the format. It does need to be live and unfiltered. If directed the proper way, which is towards deficient liberal policies first and then each one’s ideas, it could be successful. Throw out the attacks on who mowed who’s yard and who had a graffittied rock at their place, and let’s debate ideas.


67 posted on 10/24/2011 8:01:39 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: SeekAndFind
the only thing Cain will need to bring up is Newt's liking to eastern repubics and how to give money to a non conservative non electable like he did in 2010. Newt can kiss my grits.
68 posted on 10/24/2011 9:20:18 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow! Thanks for this Post S&F. I'm two hours from The Woodlands. I'm driving over. Are tickets required? How can we get additional information on this?
69 posted on 10/24/2011 10:18:45 PM PDT by no dems (Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012 !)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

OOPS!!! Guess I won’t be going after all. Ticket Prices: $200, $500 and $1,000.


70 posted on 10/24/2011 10:23:26 PM PDT by no dems (Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012 !)
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To: Cobra64

Well, my tagline says it all: Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012


71 posted on 10/24/2011 10:26:22 PM PDT by no dems (Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012 !)
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To: o2bfree

“If Cain spends his time detailing all the well documented moral deficiencies of Newt, and describes in gory detail how Newt has been corrupted by the Democrats in Washington, Newt’s campaign may be finished.”

Interesting theory, but I’ve yet to see Cain go hard after anyone. He’s been a perfect gentlemen up there in these debates. So I highly doubt he would drag up Newt’s past personal issues. They do like each other, and Cain said a few debates ago that he’d choose Newt out of anyone on stage for his VP. I just don’t see either one of them attacking each other. Their on the same team.


72 posted on 10/24/2011 10:31:00 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: battletank

I think that has been posted to that person before. And probably will be again! LOL


73 posted on 10/25/2011 1:30:38 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Cobra64
Do you really think Gingrich would accept the number two spot?

He already said that he would not say no. I guess it would depend on who is asking.

74 posted on 10/25/2011 1:35:07 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Cobra64

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/would-newt-gingrich-consider-a-vp-slot/

BLITZER: One final question. Give me a yes or a no. If one of the other Republican candidates gets the nomination and asks you to be the vice presidential running mate, is it a yes from you or a no?

GINGRICH: Well, it wouldn’t be a no.


75 posted on 10/25/2011 1:39:55 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: no dems

Me too. That’s been my dream ticket since Sept 17th.


76 posted on 10/25/2011 1:44:27 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: no dems

This give them both a chance to flesh out their ideas and give more in depth explanations.


77 posted on 10/25/2011 1:47:43 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Cain-Gingrich event, sponsored by the Texas Tea Party Patriots PAC,

Does this mean the Tea Party is still racist?

78 posted on 10/25/2011 1:48:12 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: mkjessup
Yeah, “boxers or briefs?” Such nuance and high intelligence from our journolist media.

That was followed, IIRC in the first so called debate when Cain was asked, “deep dish or thin crust?” I clicked off and haven't watched their silly manufactured food fights since.

Cain/Gingrich in substantive debate will set the marker for presidential media events. It should mark the end of baloney formats on ABCNBCCBSMSNBCCNN . . .

79 posted on 10/25/2011 3:48:01 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Actually, it may be a brilliant move, as it`ll force Cain to up his game .. especially in the foreign policy arena.. against a superior debater. If Cain plays this right, he`ll gain from it.


80 posted on 10/25/2011 4:44:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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