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Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich agree to Lincoln-Douglas style debate in The Woodlands
Houston Chronicle ^ | 10/24/2011 | Richard Dunham

Posted on 10/24/2011 1:36:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

First, there were Lincoln and Douglas.

This year, we have Cain and Gingrich.

The two Georgians seeking the Republican nomination for president have accepted an invitation from the Texas Patriots PAC to meet in The Woodlands on Nov. 5 for a free-wheeling and moderator-free debate on the major issues in the 2012 presidential campaign.

The two participants — former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — have gained ground in the polls following their performance in the first eight debates of the GOP campaign season. But Gingrich in particular has been critical of what he considers “gotcha” questions from reporters and the nasty tone of the most recent debate in Las Vegas.

“This event is a response to remarks by Speaker Gingrich regarding his frustration with the format of the other presidential debates,” said Bill O’Sullivan, a Texas Tea Party Patriots PAC volunteer. “We believe this is the best opportunity for candidates to have substantive discussion since the Lincoln-Douglas Debates.”

Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas held a series of debates in 1858 when they were running for an Illinois Senate race. The debates became famous for the in-depth discuss of issues and the high level of political discourse. Democrat Douglas defeated Republican Lincoln in the 1858 Senate race. But Lincoln defeated Douglas and two other candidates in the 1860 presidential race.

The Cain-Gingrich event, sponsored by the Texas Tea Party Patriots PAC, will be held at 6 p.m. CST on Nov. 5 at The Woodlands Resort and Conference Center. The Patriots are based in The Woodlands.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; debate; gingrich; hermancain; lincolndouglas; newt; newtgingrich; texas; thewoodlands; tx
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To: Sea Parrot

You guys are not getting it. Under Lincoln-Douglas, a candidate basically gets all the time he wants to explain whatever he wants. A series of interspersed speeches. Not very exciting in terms of fireworks but very informative.


41 posted on 10/24/2011 4:18:27 PM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is suicidal for Cain. He has neither the breadth nor depth to debate Newt, to say nothing of being POTUS.


42 posted on 10/24/2011 4:20:19 PM PDT by GlockLady ( Sarah Palin is a walking middle finger to the BosNYWash elite.)
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To: battletank
"Newt lives in Virginia."

Wow!

HermaNewtics IS possible!

In that case, I DO have to wonder if this is a tandem deal (I would definitely, definitely be excited!!!

43 posted on 10/24/2011 4:21:42 PM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let the cat fights begin.........

The group has contacted the campaigns of Texas Gov. Rick Perry and ex-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney to see if they would participate in a separate Lincoln-Douglas-style debate.

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/10/24/3469575/gingrich-cain-to-square-off-in.html#ixzz1bkC8ZNw6


44 posted on 10/24/2011 4:21:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“If you can’t take the heat...”


45 posted on 10/24/2011 4:25:11 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Living well IS the best revenge...and still legal.)
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To: Mr Rogers

And they like each other.

And they agree on much.

So neither is going to try to hurt the other.

It will be an exploration of ideas, not a blood letting.


46 posted on 10/24/2011 4:26:48 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: GlockLady

Let me provide you with an alternative view. It could be suicide for Newt. If Cain spends his time detailing all the well documented moral deficiencies of Newt, and describes in gory detail how Newt has been corrupted by the Democrats in Washington, Newt’s campaign may be finished.


47 posted on 10/24/2011 4:39:48 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: SeekAndFind

My guess is it will be a respectful and educational discussion of issues. Cain and Newt both like and respect each other, so it could be a plus for both of them.


48 posted on 10/24/2011 4:54:46 PM PDT by drierice
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Think of it this way. Cain will learn by this experience, he can talk and think on his feet with nothing prepared.

Newt is not about to try and destroy Cain nor embarrass him. That is not Newts style, until he gets to Obama, then nothing is sacred.

I believe this event will expose the two real leaders going forth.

49 posted on 10/24/2011 5:30:43 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Grams A
I would presume that Newt is going to debate Romney?

Ummm... no. The topic is:

"Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich agree to Lincoln-Douglas style debate in The Woodlands"

50 posted on 10/24/2011 5:39:51 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: hellbender
A Cain/ Newt ticket would be the smartest in many years

Do you really think Gingrich would accept the number two spot?

51 posted on 10/24/2011 5:43:07 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cato in PA

yep. its a clever trap allright. but only for Obama.


52 posted on 10/24/2011 5:51:48 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: Cobra64

I know the debate is the Woodlands is Cain and Gingrich. I would like to see Gingrich challenge Romney to a debate. No one has really challenged Romney thus far.


53 posted on 10/24/2011 5:55:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: JDW11235; All
Plus, I can see Herman possibly picking Gingrich as a running mate

Why on Earth would anyone think that Gingrich would accept the number two spot?

Gingrich is a career politician. He was Speaker of the House... two steps away from President. He's got a huge ego (like most politicians running for President) and his ego is larger than most given his resume.

Gingrich knows that he'd have to teach and coach Cain for at least a year, and I don't think he'd want to take on that task.

BTW, I'm a huge fan of Herman Cain.

54 posted on 10/24/2011 6:00:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: o2bfree

The other article I read laid out three domestic monetary topics. There is no room in that agenda for personal attacks.

I don’t think Cain would do such a thing, anyway.


55 posted on 10/24/2011 6:04:59 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administrationÂ’s amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Cobra64

Yes.


56 posted on 10/24/2011 6:06:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administrationÂ’s amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: o2bfree
It could be suicide for Newt. If Cain spends his time detailing all the well documented moral deficiencies of Newt, and describes in gory detail how Newt has been corrupted by the Democrats in Washington, Newt’s campaign may be finished.

Cain will not do this. In the past, he's been in a position to launch personal attacks, but he doesn't because he's a gentleman.

57 posted on 10/24/2011 6:09:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: cookcounty

If it is a true debate the opposing side has a chance for rebuttal, and Newt will cream Cain, nuff said.

Christopher Hitchens said the first time he met Newt was for a debate on C-Span. Hitchens said he thought, Newt was some hick congressman from Georgia and the would take him out in short order.

Hitchens said at the end of that half hour, he had a terrific headache and his head was spinning. He admitted he never stood a chance from the start and he got stomped by Newt


58 posted on 10/24/2011 6:38:47 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Cobra64

I don’t know....I’m not sure Callista is ready for the demands of the White House (she wasn’t ready for the demands of the campaign). A Cain/Gingrich ticket would kill the race card once and for all, and Cain would take all the slings and arrows of the first four years. And then both Gingriches would be in a better position to run for POTUS again.

I, for one, would love to see the old Senate dogs have to defer to Gingrich presiding over the Senate - and breaking any tie votes.


59 posted on 10/24/2011 6:47:43 PM PDT by Wife of D28Man
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To: Cobra64

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/186017-gingrich-says-he-would-consider-vice-presidency?page=2


60 posted on 10/24/2011 7:02:13 PM PDT by Prokopton
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