Posted on 10/24/2011 7:44:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Between Brit yesterday and Tokyo Rove, we now know what the Establishment talking points for this week are.
Hey Karl, your stupidity cost us 3 Senate seat pick ups in 2010. Don't double down on your stupidity in 2012
Times have changed and left you behind. Thanks for your service.
In the end I hope all of these moderates and RINO’s get behind the nominee -> Cain! They have no place to go. He he he....
I am getting to like Cain, and have liked Perry for a bit. Both right now have (presidential) political rough edges. Neither is stupid and both should adjust some to the various campaign pressures.
Limbaugh’s idea of Rove is that he’s a mechanic and not a true believer sounds close to right. I don’t think Rove’s a liberal, but he is more big government oriented than we want to see now.
That said, he does see how the various factors seem to play against each other, just like a coach. He wants to win.
I think he is wrong about this year. I hope so. The dynamics won’t fit his usual calculations, what with the possiblity of a serious conservative versus a proven McGovern, or worse. It will be an unusual dynamic, and may very well be out of Rove’s experience. We’ll see.
This from the genius who thought the way to “form a permanent Republican majority” was to run the White House communications in the spirit of “the new tone” and to capitulate to groups here and there with no coherent philosophy of limited government.This is the genius who turned what should have been a landslide victory in 2004 into a one-state squeaker.
I ALWAYS thought he was an idiot. Always.
I never understood why ANYBODY thought this moron was anything BUT a moron.
Rove has very good instincts for American electoral politics as a game, and may be right.
However, he may well be completely wrong. The fact that Cain is not a professional politician may make his “gaffes” into positives, since they contribute to Cain’s authenticity, and in the end he comes down on positions congenial to those of us on the right, and thus with the GOP electorate. In the general, Cain’s authenticity (from a black man with “slave blood”) against the polished vacuity of Obama could split the black vote dooming any hope Obama has for reelection.
In my opinion, Rove is largely responsible for the Republican decline in 2006 & 2008.
See Conservative Dilemma, 2006: The Rove Directed Republican Disaster.
William Flax
Rush invited this rino only one time to sub for him, right? This speaks volumes!
..he stopped being magnificent after 2004...
Becoming more irrelevant with each passing year, Rove should point his self-described high-power intellect at himself when discussing political gaffes.
rove’s an old woman.
Herman Cain does make a lot of verbal gaffes, but on the other hand, nobody thinks he is lying.
At some point during the last two years, voters (partucularly tea partiers) reached their limit with smooth politicians that can’t be trusted to keep their promises.
The reaction of the 2010 class of “tea party” congressmen is the prefect example. When they arrived in Washington and started to actually try and implement the promised they kept, they were told to “shut up and be realistic.” Often by old-timers that had been making the exact same campaign promises for years.
Cain’s biggest (and maybe only) advantage over the other candidates in the race is voters believe Cain will make a serious effort to keep his campaign promises.
When he was trash talking Christine O'Donnell 2010, it was published that he had been working for Castle's campaign.
That he refused to disclose his ties to the Castle camp while pretending to give an objective critic of O'Donnell is clear indication that the opinions he expresses are bought and paid for propaganda, not objective analysis.
I’ve noticed that Rove not only “over-analyzes” things from time to time, but often engages in some heavy-duty wishful thinking as well.
Rove who managed to win 2 Presidential elections by a few thousand votes and engineered the GOP Disasters of 2006 and 2008 has "good political instincts?"
Where is the evidence of that?
Rove has earned it, and politics is social as well as analytical.
A prudent thing to do.
But what angers me is that regardless of how accurate he is or isn't, Rove is not making an educated guess here. The whole purpose of his statement is to *steer & influence* opinion.
The Cain "boomlet" is not over yet. Will it last? I guess we'll see. But I am thoroughly disgusted with the GOP elite and their constant manipulation of the candidates. They are as bad as the Democrats in their self centered superiority and "we know what's best for you" attitude.
When he was trash talking Christine O'Donnell 2010, it was published that he had been working for Castle's campaign.
That he refused to disclose his ties to the Castle camp while pretending to give an objective critic of O'Donnell is clear indication that the opinions he expresses are bought and paid for propaganda, not objective analysis.
I think this is an outstanding post.
Freepers should start an email campaign to demand that whomever interviews Rove should demand to know who he is specifically working for this campaign cycle. Also, What constitutes a "Conflict of Interest" to a Fox News Political analyst? What are the ground rules. How do voters/viewers overcome exactly what you posted above?
Regards,
TS
What about the gaffe o matic Joe Biden, the teleprompter President who still makes dozens of gaffes, even you make gaffes, Karl.
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