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1 posted on 10/22/2011 1:39:05 PM PDT by 4buttons
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To: 4buttons

It’s Fox now, not Calderon?

Anyhow, it’s hard to blame either one of them for wanting the profits to go out of drug running and all the chaos that surrounds it.

What if Obama’s answer were to lift the Federal ban on pot? That would leave Mexico in the stew it deserves, while helping the US economy.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 1:51:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: 4buttons

It’s Fox now, not Calderon?

Anyhow, it’s hard to blame either one of them for wanting the profits to go out of drug running and all the chaos that surrounds it.

What if Obama’s answer were to lift the Federal ban on pot? (I mean domestically grown pot.) That would leave Mexico in the stew it deserves, while helping the US economy.


3 posted on 10/22/2011 1:52:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: 4buttons

Poof, drugs are legalized. Now what’s the war with the cartels going to be called?

The criminality of drugs isn’t what grew the cartels or armed them, or made them into the horrid problem that Mexico has today. It has everything to do with the culture of Mexico which encouraged corruption in every level of government, from bribes to street officers to outright buying of army officers to steal weapons from the military.

Make it legal to have massive coca fields near the border, and those fields will be under the armed control of the cartels, and nothing will have changed. Make it legal for huge marijuana plantations, and again, they’ll simply be armed cartel camps.

It all comes down to a question of will. Does Mexico have the will to retain their country? I don’t think so. Too much time is spent blaming outside factors - it’s the drugs, it’s the guns, it’s...all the fault of Mexicans for permitting armed groups to take control of their country. Stop blaming others, and either take it back, or cede such territory to the cartels and move on.


4 posted on 10/22/2011 1:52:27 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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5 posted on 10/22/2011 1:53:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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Georgie Soros is sure busy! This is one of his pet causes. He funds a huge pro-drug legalization group that has a very deceptive name that makes it sound as if it is opposed to drugs, but it is actually a huge and well-funded pro-drug organization. They get pro-drug articles into the mainstream press and into things like National Geographic and I guess they must have slipped Fox a few bucks to come out with this. (He’s a flake anyway.)

But maybe Soros’ theory is that it’s easier to control the peasants if they stay stoned. Or maybe he’s invested in a lot of Bolivian coca plantations or perhaps in the coca-growers union?


9 posted on 10/22/2011 1:58:56 PM PDT by livius
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Time to Legalize

NO! NO! NO!!!! DAMNIT!! The problem is not the price, or the money flow. Its not Mexico, its not the cartels is the use of the sh!t in the first place. Even if they made the damn stuff free, our drug problem would only increase. Anybody who's for leagalization has their head completely up their butt.

10 posted on 10/22/2011 2:00:57 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: 4buttons

Legalize drugs, and the Mexican cartels will get out of the business, to be replaced by peaceful hippies growing their own. And the lion will lie down with the lamb, and it will be the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.


11 posted on 10/22/2011 2:07:29 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: 4buttons

Yeah, legalize it and we can have even more stoned idiots out there protesting that the few who are left who still are cogent enough owe them their earnings.


13 posted on 10/22/2011 2:12:32 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Yeah. Let's legalize drugs. "Crocodile" (desomorphine), the new, "designer" Russian street drug is on its way to America. After a few years, we'll have a lot fewer druggies in this country to worry about.

(Warning: This is all you need to know about desomorphine if you have a weak stomach.)

18 posted on 10/22/2011 2:22:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: 4buttons

What would likely happen, if you did legalize it and regulate it, like you do alcohol, is that users would learn to moderate their level of usage.

Will their be some stupids, who will abuse it? Yes, but probably no real greater numbers that already abuse alcohol.


21 posted on 10/22/2011 2:26:04 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: 4buttons

I don’t think Mexico should be legalized.


30 posted on 10/22/2011 3:06:08 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: 4buttons
This war on burglary has taken too long, cost too many freedoms, and stopped nothing.

Legalize theft today.

/sarc

32 posted on 10/22/2011 3:15:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 4buttons

Idea I floated a couple of days ago:

Problem:

The libs want to cut the Medicare budget and institute “death panels”. So, despite the fact that Grandma paid into Medicare her entire life, the government says that fighting to save her from cancer costs toooo much. So they want to put her in hospice and pump morphine into her until she croaks.

My creative idea:

Instead of putting Grandma into a hospice, put drug addicts into a hospice. When somebody gets busted for possession of heroin, cocaine, meth, etc., the Judge gives them a choice. They can go to jail, they can sign up for rehab, or they can go to an Addict Hospice. At the Addict Hospice they will be provided with hot meals, a bunk, and ALL OF THE DRUGS THEY WANT...FOR FREE. If the addict gets sober enough, we let them out to work at jobs. However, they don’t have to work. The addicts can just do drugs until they croak. Vasectomies/tubal ligations are mandatory so we don’t end up with a bunch of crack babies in the foster system.

Advantages:

1. Takes the profit out of drug smuggling, dealing, etc. Boohoo for the cartels, Afganis, crooked pols, et al.

2. Get the addicts off the street. Theft and other crime will drop. Hookers will disappear. STD rates will decline.

3. The addicts have no incentive to try and get others hooked in order to sell to them. Overall addiction rates drop.

4. Drugs are still illegal, except in the Addict Hospice. This is a compromise between maximum freedom and the safety of the community.

5. Providing meals and free drugs is MUCH CHEAPER than policing, prosecuting, incarcerating, etc. Police can put more resources into murder, white collar crime, etc.

6. All addicts have a DNR order (Do Not Resuscitate), just like Grandma.

I believe in freedom and free enterprise. If someone wants to consume alcohol or heroin until they die, I say, “Let ‘em”. Just so they are separated from society for the safety of the rest of us.

Bottom line: Instead of drugging Grandma to death, against her will, give the drugs to the people who have no interest in living beyond getting high.


36 posted on 10/22/2011 3:23:18 PM PDT by darth
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