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Climate study confirms what skeptics scoffed at: global warming is real (BS!)
msnbc ^ | 10/21/2011 | Pete Spotts/csm

Posted on 10/22/2011 6:54:27 AM PDT by tobyhill

A new climate study shows that since the mid-1950s, global average temperatures over land have risen by 0.9 degrees Celsius (1.6 degrees Fahrenheit), confirming previous studies that have found a climate that has been warming – in fits and starts – since around 1900.

Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.

The latest results mirror those from earlier, independent studies by scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction and Research in Britain, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

These previous efforts, however, came under fire from some climate-change skeptics who said they had detected serious flaws in the analytical methods and temperature records the three groups used.

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1 posted on 10/22/2011 6:54:30 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

The idea that we can compute what the temperature IS or SHOULD BE at any given time for every point on earth is an absurdity. Main is soooooo vain.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 6:56:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill

Hmmmmmmmmm a coordinated assault on our sensibilities!?

Last night a post on a new study by some yazoo at Berkeley “proves” Global Warming according to the BBC, and now this.

I see a desperate attempt to BS us once again in progress.


3 posted on 10/22/2011 6:58:19 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: tobyhill
The Climategate study indicated there was going to be a “tipping point” where the Earth suddenly warmed up and could not revert to its previous state. This study took the data and ran it again. This, and National Council for Atmospheric Research computer simulations, show that the warming will have no tipping point. If we remove the carbon dioxide and methane from the atmosphere, the Earth cools. It's better science.

The facts are there. What's causing the warming? Solar activity? (Some). Increased CO2 levels (Some, probably more).

What do we do about it?

Let the free market decide, not an EPA czar.

4 posted on 10/22/2011 6:59:01 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: tobyhill

Note: The authors of this study refused to let it be peer-reviewed, chosing instead to first release it to the media. That should tell you everything you need to know.


5 posted on 10/22/2011 7:03:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: tobyhill
Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities

"at least to some degree" is not conclusive scientific fact, but more like: maybe, kinda, sorta... I think...

And who is this "most?" 51%? 99%? What of those not in the "most" category... are they wrong, idiots, heretics... or actually trying to use fact-based science?

6 posted on 10/22/2011 7:04:07 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: tobyhill

The Al Gore types continue to beat this dead horse thinking that if they can just beat it hard enough and fast enough it will live again.


7 posted on 10/22/2011 7:05:55 AM PDT by JPG (America is worth saving. All hands on deck!)
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To: tobyhill

“Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.”

Most of THESE self proclaimed “climate scientists” have an agenda that drives them to focus in areas other than natural solar fluctuations.


8 posted on 10/22/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: tobyhill

Does anybody believe NASA and NOAA are populated with objective scientists?
Somebody offers to pay them to study a “problem” and NASA/NOAA are expected to come back and tell them, “Nope, just natural fluctuations, no manmade problem here”....


9 posted on 10/22/2011 7:11:00 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry
“Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.”

And if you don't believe this, read their already proven phony emails corroborating this bullchit.

10 posted on 10/22/2011 7:12:12 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

The earth has been warming and cooling for 4.3 billion years.
That’s not a damned thing we can do about it.


11 posted on 10/22/2011 7:13:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tobyhill

Follow the money!


12 posted on 10/22/2011 7:14:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: tobyhill
Have they yet to explain the occurrence of the Ice Age, the melting of the Ice Age, the mini Ice Age and the melting of it....all without human involvement?
13 posted on 10/22/2011 7:16:03 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: skimbell
Exactly.

They forget one thing.... science is not a consensus.

14 posted on 10/22/2011 7:16:30 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NoGrayZone
Another Ice Age?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

15 posted on 10/22/2011 7:23:01 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: Don Corleone
Follow the money!

From Eisenhower's farewell address:

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.

16 posted on 10/22/2011 7:24:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html#ixzz1bWJsXnTZ

17 posted on 10/22/2011 7:25:09 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: tobyhill

“confirming previous studies that have found a climate that has been warming – in fits and starts – since around 1900.

Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.”

OK, so this warming started around 1900, but only since the mid 50s (to some degree!!) was it caused by man’s activities. Just what caused the “warming” between 1900 and the 50s?


18 posted on 10/22/2011 7:27:12 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: tobyhill

“Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F.”

Quick! Hide the decline! If we all work together, the sheeple will never know!


19 posted on 10/22/2011 7:28:40 AM PDT by DrC
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To: tobyhill

No, Glowbull Warming isn’t real, but communists in the white house is.

Here, focus on this false threat while you ignore the real threat.


20 posted on 10/22/2011 7:32:48 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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