If those are the rules I guess I am not pro-life either.
Rape Incest, to save the mother, all legitimate reasons if the abortion is carried out in the first trimester.
OK so flame me.
You are not alone, however I don’t support the incest exception.
Murder . . . that's all it is . . . 1st trimester? . . . exactly, and I do mean, exactly when does the 2nd trimester start . . . when . . . exactly . . . noon? what minute? . . . these are not silly questions . . . where do you draw the line between alive/can be killed and alive/can be saved.
To break down life to everything but 1st trimester is all words again . . . just words . . . but someone dies . . . someone real small . . . not a potential human, but a human.
The perp walks and the baby dies . . . no logic whatsoever. There is no gray area . . . the baby either is a baby or it's not . . . if not, what is it?
I agree with you and Perry’s position works for me. (Though I doubt I’ll vote for him.)
That Harry Blackmun-speak is easy for you - you've already been born.
Not that it's all that important to you, but since when is it permissible to kill an innocent person for the crime of another?
Cordially,
I would add; what about an ectopic pregnancy? That is much more common than a pregnancy as the result of rape or incest; about 1% to 2% or more of all pregnancies.
With very, very rare exceptions, ectopic pregnancies are not viable. For the mother it is a life threatening complication due to hemorrhaging and if not treated properly in the first trimester; presuming the pregnancy does not terminate “naturally”, i.e. a miscarriage before being diagnosed, not terminating the pregnancy surgically and early will lead to the almost certain death of the mother with a zero chance of the fetus surviving. And if there is no intervention and the mother doesn’t hemorrhage to death, the damage to the fallopian tube can often lead to infertility.
I had a friend who went through this. It was a horrible dilemma and deeply painful and heart wrenching decision for her and her husband (both very religious and pro-life) to make but after consulting with their OBY and even getting a second opinion from a very highly respected high-risk OBY and considering their two year old son being without his mother, they terminated the pregnancy, one which never had any chance to come to term.
Two years later this same couple gave birth to a healthy daughter and three years later to a healthy son. Had they not terminated the ectopic pregnancy, the husband would have lost his wife, their oldest son would have lost his mother and their two other children would have never been born.
It was a tough decision to be sure, but one that I wouldn’t want a politician or bureaucrat to make for them or me, any more than I would want a politician or bureaucrat to make the decision to force the termination of the pregnancy.
Sometimes such a decision really is between the woman (and hopefully the father) and her doctor.
In a case such as this, I do not consider it an abortion as I do a life saving operation.
I’ll probably be flamed also. Have at it.
I am pro life, and those are acceptable exceptions, IMHO.
that is the only justification at all. A tubal pregnancy, for example, should be terminated because it could very well kill the mother. Rape and incest are not a reasonable reason to kill a baby. We never execute a person for the crime of his/her father and this should be no exception!
What does a "trimester" have to do with whether or not the baby is alive?
The term was invented by Justice Blackmun in Roe v. Wade. It is a word designed to cheapen the life of a baby in the womb so as to justify its murder.
Self defense is the only legitimate reason to kill another human being. Rape and incest are not life threatening conditions to warrant killing a human being who is guilty of nothing.
So the fact that God said He knows them in the womb makes no difference to you?
When our Mother and Daddy tried to get her to abort that SOB's bastard.She said, "It's my baby, too. It doesn't matter who the Father is. It's my baby and I love him."