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Horror, resignation at killing of Ohio animals
AP via YahooNews ^ | October 20, 2011 | ANDY BROWNFIELD and KANTELE FRANKO

Posted on 10/20/2011 11:24:27 AM PDT by Enchante

ZANESVILLE, Ohio (AP) — Amid expressions of horror and revulsion at the killing of dozens of wild animals in Ohio — and photographs of their bloody carcasses — animal rights advocates agreed there was little local authorities could have done to save the dangerous creatures once they began roaming the countryside after their owner released them before taking his own life.

Sheriff's deputies shot 48 animals — including 18 rare Bengal tigers and 17 lions — after Terry Thompson, owner of the private Muskingum County Animal Farm near Zanesville, threw their cages open Tuesday and then committed suicide.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: animals; ohio; tigers; zanesville; zoo
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To: Enchante

Such gorgeous animals....so sad.

Too bad the guy was so crazy at the end. He could have offered these innocent animals to any number of organizations or wildlife farms who would have cared for them.

It is a tragedy all around.


41 posted on 10/20/2011 12:00:43 PM PDT by Palladin (Newt/Cain)
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To: org.whodat
"A couple of dead cows and the animals would have been eating until the zoo people got there."

???? As I've said I don't claim to know anything about the situation but what is presented in this article. However, I am astonished at your complacent attitude and smug ridicule of LEOs dealing with such a crisis.

So you actually believe that 35 tigers and lions could be counted upon to stay put placidly dining on "a couple of dead cows" without roaming the countryside in search of more/other foods???

AND that local LEOs were supposed to know and judge within minutes that it was ok to let all these big cats roam loose because you are so sure that there was no danger??

I'd say the officers on the scene recognized that the public had to be protected, that there was no way to precisely and instantly gauge the risks, but that tigers and lions can hunt over many miles in a short time in search of a meal. They can kill anything that moves and would not all be content to dine together on a "couple of cows" until they could be rounded up.
42 posted on 10/20/2011 12:01:21 PM PDT by Enchante (Killing Al-Awlaki is the only kind of Obamacare I can support!!)
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To: Spunky

Video of Jack Hanna...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/jack-hanna-on-ohio-exotic-animal-tragedy/2011/10/20/gIQAUgAX0L_video.html

Animal Expert Jack Hanna was called in to help the deputies, and he said though animal lovers would have preferred the beasts be tranquilized and recaptured, the deputies really had no choice.

“You cannot tranquilize an animal like this at night time,” he explained. “They hide in the bushes. In the dark, they don’t know what they are doing. You could be jeopardizing a lot of human lives.”

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/national/exotic-animal-deaths-in-ohio-face-sharp-criticism-oct-19-2011


43 posted on 10/20/2011 12:02:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: org.whodat
The "zoo people" were the ones who told the cops to start shooting.

When you have that many predators out in a settled area and it is dark and raining and you don't have a whole bunch of trained professional properly equipped animal handlers who know all the details of the animals they are going to be rounding up you shoot the animals.

Tranquilizer darts are not "one size fits all" what will take down a wolf will not slow down a tiger. It takes time for the darts to work, up to 40 minutes. You have to get fairly close to shoot the animal. Putting all that aside, tranquilizer dart are not readily available. There is no need for them to be. This is not a normal situation.

44 posted on 10/20/2011 12:03:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: randomhero97

Same here.

I’m a big time animal lover and LEO criticizer, but I’m confident that they did what they had to.

It was getting dark, a storm was coming, Sheriff’s deputies aren’t armed with tranqs, and these animals posed a danger to the public.

The asshat owner is responsible for this tragedy.


45 posted on 10/20/2011 12:04:24 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Enchante
Two years ago the DNR shot a wild bear in a La Crosse, Wisconsin (my old hometown) park. The small adult, male bear had run into the park after what officials speculated was getting the scent of a female bear in estrus. The park was full of people, and the scared bear quickly climbed a tree in the park. The DNR was summoned and after a short period of discussing what to do, shot the bear dead. Many locals were outraged that the DNR didn't use a dart gun to tranquilize the bear. They couldn't use a dart gun, because they didn't have one.

A short time later a similar situation occurred in Eau Claire, Wisconsin where DNR officials shot and killed a bear in a public park. Again many people were upset, but again the DNR had no dart gun. What should the DNR have done if they had a dart gun? First they could have just cleared the park, if given authority from the local police, and hoped the bear would climb down and leave without hurting anyone. If they managed to hit the bear with a dart but he wasn't fully tranquilized, he could have hurt some people in the park. Then, of course, there would be people saying the DNR should have immediately shot and killed the bear. And there would be lawsuits. Sometimes officials can't win.

46 posted on 10/20/2011 12:05:39 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: cuban leaf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzA_qmJkmLY&feature=related


47 posted on 10/20/2011 12:09:02 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: floriduh voter

I dont think you’ll find to many towns with a population of 25,000 that have a stock pile of night vision glasses. They said they had only 4 dart guns available anyways.


48 posted on 10/20/2011 12:11:27 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: kcvl

Exactly. There is also the possibility that the Bengal tigers were from other “farms” of this type, which, given their inbred nature, would not have been suitable for continued breeding, much less rehabilitation back into the wild.


49 posted on 10/20/2011 12:13:27 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SMARTY

Tell that to the monkey. =-O

Just kidding. As gross as the whole thing is, the animals had to be put down. You can’t put a bunch of people & pets at risk because some weirdo opened the cages.


50 posted on 10/20/2011 12:14:04 PM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: Enchante

The first report was they killed about twenty of the anmals upon arrival, so not two many left. The rest they hunded down and killed. But that is just what I read, but I doubt if the dead ones wanted to eat.


51 posted on 10/20/2011 12:14:36 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Enchante

A monkey, a lion and a grizzly bear walk into a bar......no really


53 posted on 10/20/2011 12:17:17 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: floriduh voter

I’ll take the word of the expert...

Animal Expert Jack Hanna was called in to help the deputies, and he said though animal lovers would have preferred the beasts be tranquilized and recaptured, the deputies really had no choice.

“You cannot tranquilize an animal like this at night time,” he explained. “They hide in the bushes. In the dark, they don’t know what they are doing. You could be jeopardizing a lot of human lives.”

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/national/exotic-animal-deaths-in-ohio-face-sharp-criticism-oct-19-2011


54 posted on 10/20/2011 12:20:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Rewrite, rewrite, reports yesterday, cops arrived at house found wild animals lose and they started shooting, called for back up, then sheriff called zoo. Many animals were dead by that time, the zoo came and got the grass eaters, the monkey is what they told the cop to shoot, first wild animal report was from neighbor that had a giraffe in her yard. Now that was what was reported yesterday and it started before lunch.
55 posted on 10/20/2011 12:22:55 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat
Once they left that animal prison they could have hidden in so many places they would never have found them until they mauled a HUMAN.

Since the Sheriff had the heart to call Jack Hanna I doubt he was any too thrilled to kill those animals. That is the only choice he had considering his job is to protect HUMAN LIFE.

56 posted on 10/20/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: floriduh voter

Hitting a tiger with a dart will make him mad. The drugs won’t take effect fast enough to stop that tiger from attacking.

People have been killed trying to do so. The sheriff tried it, but even the people from the zoo said it was to risky.


57 posted on 10/20/2011 12:26:18 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: org.whodat
"However, people need to make sure these trigger happy cops do not steal these animals and have a mount for the den."

What evidence do you have that the police officers of this agency were trigger happy?

What would you have done differently?

When will you arrive at the scene to personally make sure that the officers don't steal the caucuses?

58 posted on 10/20/2011 12:28:05 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enchante

In the U.S., lions, tigers and wolves kept by private citizens far outnumber the ones in zoos. Somthing like 8,000 privatley kept lions and tigers.


59 posted on 10/20/2011 12:28:29 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: randomhero97
This is a situation that no local US LEO department is prepared for. I almost bet most of them were scared shitless.

Over THIRTY hungry adult apex predators, any one of which can turn you into dinner in about 6 seconds, and you're IN THE DARK with barely adequate firearms.

Taking on multiple large carnivores with small caliber weapons takes some fortitude.

Naysayers can bitch all they want, but it's a miracle nobody was seriously injured or killed.

60 posted on 10/20/2011 12:33:57 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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