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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t give half a damn about your tagline.

I would not force a rape victim to carry her rapists seed to term, sue me.

If a woman is diagnosed that she WILL die if she tried to carry a child to term, you choose that she die? And YOU are pro-life?

Don’t make me laugh.


48 posted on 10/20/2011 10:37:44 AM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: Grunthor; wagglebee

“Don’t make me laugh.”

Believe me pal, I find nothing funny about your attacks on my pro-life position.

“And YOU are pro-life?”

Yes. And damn proud of it. I wish I could say I’m surprised you are on this conservative board with your pro-choice views, but unfortunately FR is infested with libs like yourself.


53 posted on 10/20/2011 10:47:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Grunthor

The legal issue of consent is what makes the issue so difficult. If a person not related to me needed to live in my house or else they would die, could I be legally forced to let them live in my house? That’s how the legal issue appears to those who support the right to abort a child conceived through rape.

But it’s difficult because whether or not the woman gave consent for the sperm to be placed in her body, the child that results really is still her child.

So the legal issues are complex.

When it comes to the actual woman who faces the issue I think there are more complex issues than the legal ones, though, and I think it would be helpful for these women to realize that what was done to them was violence but even good can come from bad. There are divorced women raising children whose fathers they totally despise, and yet they love that child with all their heart - not basing their love on who the child came from, but on who the child is. And a child can become something wonderful even if his/her parent is total crapola.

I’ve seen research that suggests that the violence of abortion is more traumatic for a woman than the violence of rape - because she was the victim of the rape violence but the perpetrator of the abortion violence. A person can’t help being a victim, but they carry guilt for the rest of their life if they choose to perpetrate violence against an innocent victim.

So I recognize the legal issues, and those can be argued. I’m not going to throw rocks at anybody for what they argue about those legal issues.

I do think that a woman in that situation is better helped when she concentrates on blessing coming even from bad, rather than focusing on her own rights and on who created the child (unless it is on Who REALLY created the child, which is something only God can do). And I think it would be helpful for her to realize that she’s not alone in being afraid that seeing the child will bring back painful memories, but just like a LOT of women who despise the fathers of their children, she can love the child because it is HERS and because of what the child is like, and not punish the child for something he/she couldn’t help either.


60 posted on 10/20/2011 10:58:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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