What can the US do about Cuban oil drilling?

South Florida Sun Sentinel ^ | October 19, 2011 | Gary Stein

[ConservativeStatement]

It's bad enough that some public officials have no second thoughts about drilling for oil off Florida's coastline.

Now Floridians have to be concerned about Cuban drilling, which could be as close at 50 miles from the Florida Keys. A massive Chinese-built rig is expected to begin drilling the first well off Cuba in January.

And what happens if oil drilling in Cuban waters produces a major spill that heads towards Florida's shores? You don't really want to know.

[mountainlion]

There is a lot of oil pumped in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, all around this area. Do you have a map of where the refineries are? How much do each state produce? Who owns the gas stations?

[mountainlion]

Here is some good information but a little misleading.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp

There is a list of those that do not import Arab oil. Citco is on the list but it imports Venezuelan oil.

[thackney]

Capacity of Operable Petroleum Refineries by State as of January 1, 2011
http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/refinerycapacity/table3.pdf

The combined area of Colorado, Montana, Utah & Wyoming produces about 375 BPD and uses about 730 BPD.

Crude Oil Production by states
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbblpd_m.htm

Petroleum Consumption in PADD 4
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_cons_psup_dc_r40_mbblpd_m.htm

[thackney]

Here is some good bad information but a little very misleading.

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Citgo.......................0 barrels
Sunoco.................0 barrels
Conoco.................0 barrels
Sinclair.....................0 barrels
BP/Phillips............0 barrels
Hess........................0 barrels
ARCO.......................0 barrels

We know Citgo imports.

ARCO no longer exists, they were bought by BP. Phillips was never part of BP, they joined with Conoco.

Sunoco imports from: ANGOLA, AZERBAIJAN, CAMEROON, CANADA, NIGERIA, NORWAY and SPAIN.

ConocoPhillips imports from: ANGOLA, CANADA, CHILE, CONGO, ECUADOR, GERMANY, IRAQ, SOUTH KOREA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA, UNITED KINGDOM and VENEZUELA

Sinclair only imports from Canada.

Hess imports from: ESTONIA, ARUBA, ALGERIA, RUSSIA, CANADA, SPAIN, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO and VIRGIN ISLANDS.

Source: Energy Information Administration
http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/data/import.xls

You get the point?

On top of that, most gasoline station do not only buy gasoline from their own refineries, some of the don't even own refineries. Often a 3rd party will own a pipeline and deliver the product to meet the spec without a guarantee where it came from.

Those types of emails are pure garbage.

[mountainlion]

Those types of emails are pure garbage
Which Emails are you referring to? I have not seen any emails.

So If I buy form those that do not import form terrorists nations or owned buy terrorist supporters I will not be supporting terrorist countries. The money will stay the fuel company and not go to the terrorist countries. If I buy form Sinclair I may even got some Wyoming Gas. Not every dorp of gas is from foreign countries.

[mountainlion]

Those types of emails are pure garbage
Which Emails are you referring to? I have not seen any emails.

So If I buy form those that do not import form terrorists nations or owned buy terrorist supporters I will not be supporting terrorist countries. The money will stay the fuel company and not go to the terrorist countries. If I buy form Sinclair I may even got some Wyoming Gas. Not every drop of gas is from foreign countries.

[bert]

Why should the USA do anything?

Cuba is a sovereign nation

[thackney]

You linked to a web site that said this information was from old emails that continue to circulate at least 10 years after it was created.

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If you buy from Sinclair in Colorado or any other gasoline station in Colorado, you will usually be getting fuel made from North American oil.

If you buy from Sinclair in Southern California, I guarantee some of that fuel was refined from Middle East oil.

Sinclair, and essentially every oil/gasoline company treats each division as a separate unit. Oil refined in a Sinclair refinery does not only go to a Sinclair gasoline station. And Sinclair gasoline stations do not only use Sinclair refineries, as do most all companies in most areas.

I've been on the design team for refined products truck loading stations. The same gasoline/diesel from multiple refineries will often be mixed in the same tanks, it just has to meet the ASME specification for quality. As each truck is loaded, a small amount of the specific company (BP, Shell, etc) additive is squirted in to make it "theirs".

It is normal at these truck loading stations, regardless of who owns them, to have a line of tanks each containing specific company's different additive. In rural areas, typically every different gasoline station is using the gasoline loaded at on or two different truck loading stations. They just add different additives. The EPA now requires all USA gasoline to have some injector cleaner and the like. If it is a no-name brand like sold at Wal-Mart, it will just use the generic additive.

Often these stations and refineries are not even near the same pipeline or market.

But I can assure you that the pipelines that connect Gulf Coast Refineries to Colorado Truck Loading Stations wasn't built because it was never used or needed.

[ThomasMore]

Build two platforms for everyone they do...right next to them :)