Posted on 10/20/2011 7:50:01 AM PDT by julieee
Cain: Government Shouldn't Make Decision on Abortion, Rape
Washington, DC -- Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is raising eyebrows today of pro-life advocates and political pundits who thought he had previously taken a pro-life position on abortion.
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/20/cain-government-shouldnt-make-decision-on-abortion-rape/
(Excerpt) Read more at lifenews.com ...
I see your point, but playing devil’s advocate here ... government is government. It is intellectually dishonoest to say gov’t shouldn’t be in the business of ... except gov’t should.
I’m just stunned by his comments though I freely admit I need to read more. Which I’m gonna do right now.
I would encourage everyone to go to Redstate.com and watch the 4 minute video and make your own mind up.
“oh my... Cain is pro abortion?!?!?”
No. He’s not.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795465/posts
MORGAN: Abortion. What’s your view of abortion?
CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why —
MORGAN: No circumstances?
CAIN: No circumstances.
MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates — some of them qualify that.
CAIN: They qualify but —
MORGAN: Rape and incest.
CAIN: Rape and incest.
Cain is specifically rejecting exceptions to anti-abortion laws that other candidates have put forth allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest.
So Morgan asks whether Cain would want his daughters to RAISE a child born out of rape and incest as their own. Cain replies that’s a decision for the family to make. That’s where the sick bastards who are trying to bring Cain down leap into action, making it seem like the question was whether Cain would want them to carry the baby to term:
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying — again, it’s a tricky question, I know.
CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You’re mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You’re mixing —
MORGAN: That’s what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
Some truth courtesy of dangus.
I’m just going to post the relevant section of the article so that FReepers can judge for themselves what Cain really meant:
““Whats your view of abortion?” Morgan asks Cain in the interview.
“I believe that life begins at conception and abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why,” Cain said before Morgan interrupted him and asked, “No circumstances?” to which the presidential candidate replied, “No circumstances.”
Morgan told Cain that that sets him apart from many other Republican candidates who are pro-life but also believe in exceptions such as rape or incest or the life of the mother. He continued by asking Cain if he would ant his daughter or granddaught5er, if raped, to keep the baby — which Cain said “was mixing two things.”
“It’s not the government’s role, or anybody else’s role to make that decision,” Cain responded. “Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidence, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family, and whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue.””
The article seems to imply that Cain is personally strongly against abortion even in cases of rape of incest, but as far as policy and laws go Cain (according to this article) seems to think the government should stay out of it, and leave the choice to women. Which would make him... pro choice..
He needs to clarify this asap. This is the kind of thing I want to hear directly from the candidate and not from excerpts from an interview.
OMG he has said on numerous occassions he’s Pro-Life even in cases or rape and incest.
This trashing other candidates thing is getting old.
Why can’t you just support your Republican Candidate and quit trashing others?
If you don’t like Cain, that’s fine! Don’t vote for him. Conservatives shouldn’t be trashing each other.
He was talking about raising the child (from rape) vs. putting it up for adoption. That is the part he said should be decided by the family.
He wasn’t talking about murdering the child.
So who is your candidate? I mean the one who would outlaw abortions in cases of rape or incest?
the article was written to deceive.
Ah! Thanks for posting the original interview transcript. They even edited out of the article that Cain was talking about raising the child!
I thought lifesitenews was a reputable source, but after seeing this, I’m not taking their word for anything anymore. This is the kind of hatchet job I expect from MSNBC, not a conservative pro-family website.
Is it the duty of government to force all pregnant women to go to an ob/gyn at the first sign of pregnancy? Is it the duty of government to make sure all pregnant women live in stress-free environments and eat nutritious meals 3 to 5 times a day to ensure that growing babies are being properly incubated? Should women who have miscarriages due to any of these factors be criminalized? I know that I sound like a lunatic liberal here, but you say it is the duty of ALL levels of government to protect life in the womb. How far should that protection go?
wow! your right ! man that’s is a tricky article! (and probably purposely done so)
Cain is talking about raising the children born from rape or incest!
good grief, I have had to read it 3 times to get the full meaning.
julieee’s posting record is exclusively posting articles.
Never once has “she” stuck around to comment or discuss the article with anyone on FR.
LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness....I think it is.
The specific thing that he was referring to was whether or not the women would KEEP and raise the baby.
NOT abortion. That is being taken out of context.
‘a conservative pro-family website.’
Pro-family, but not pro-black.
Good luck with that...
Won’t work.
“I support right-to-life issues unequivocally and I adamantly support the first three aspects of the Susan B. Anthony pledge involving appointing pro-life judges, choosing pro-life cabinet members, and ending taxpayer-funded abortions,” Cain said this summer. “However, the fourth requirement demands that I ‘advance’ the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act. As president, I would sign it, but Congress must advance the legislation.”
“I have been a consistent and unwavering champion of pro life issues,” Cain added. “In no way does this singular instance of clarification denote an abandonment of the pro-life movement, but instead, is a testament to my respect for the balance of power and the role of the presidency.”
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