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1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days (Isn't third world status grand?)...
YahooNews ^ | 10/19/11 | Julie Watson

Posted on 10/20/2011 7:20:11 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

The first Mexican carrier is set to roll into the U.S. interior within days, but the Teamsters union and two California congressmen haven't given up on stopping the cross-border trucking program that had been stalled for years by safety concerns and political wrangling. U.S. Reps. Duncan Hunter and Bob Filner joined Teamsters President James Hoffa at the border Wednesday to take a bipartisan stand against the pilot project that will allow approved Mexican trucks to come deep into the United States. The first one will enter Texas on Friday. Hunter is a San Diego-area Republican, while Filner is a Democrat whose district includes California's border with Mexico. They were surrounded at a news conference by more than 75 union members from at least five states.

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: mexicantrucks; nafta; perry; texas
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To: ridesthemiles

Same boat.


41 posted on 10/20/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: al_c
A huge philanthropist.

Supporter of the Boy Scouts, local hospitals, education programs... A huge supporter of the military. They use to go out of their way to hire folks that were VETs...

He had his 50th wedding anniversary when I still worked there (Perot Systems) in like 2004 (I think it was then). One of his kids went USAF, the daughter worked at the VA.

He ran his business square and took care of his employees as much as possible. Unfortunately age essentially took this great American out of the picture and already by 2005 his involvement weaned even within his own Business. Others began to take over, the firm went public and as he left the stage they sold the firm to Dell. Jr. never cared much about Perot Systems and has a construction firm.

Few remember, but I think this tells all about who you're dealing with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Wings_of_Eagles (Sadly, most people don't even know about it anymore, and things like “global warming” dominate Wikipedia with pages devoted to that nonsense).

He's the real deal-

42 posted on 10/20/2011 12:25:05 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Scythian

LOL!


43 posted on 10/20/2011 12:36:49 PM PDT by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You know things are pretty effed up when you start agreeing with the Teamsters. LOL!! I have to laugh so I don’t cry. Which of these venerable GOP candidates has stated that he would pull us out of NAFTA?


44 posted on 10/20/2011 12:45:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Red6

Cool! I joined the company (now Dell) just before his 80th birthday party. Very cool tribute that included countless video messages from military personel from around the world, Steve Jobs, Jay Leno, GW Bush, and many others ... even Dana Carvey (hilarious). Ebby Halliday even showed up and sang him a song while playing her ukulele.

The halls in that building are like a museum. Something to see around every corner.


45 posted on 10/20/2011 12:59:40 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: BenLurkin

Do YOU want to pay $20 for a diet coke?


46 posted on 10/20/2011 1:45:28 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: al_c

He had the same problem Ron Paul has. Great ideas. To bad he’s a cook. Kook, I mean.


47 posted on 10/20/2011 2:21:51 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: al_c
If you walk down the hall by the cafeteria they use to have the entire thing dedicated to the armed services and especially to Bull Simons and the guys that rescued his EDS employees. On the main entry original Norman Rockwell paintings say it all, he's of a time and has values that are no longer shared by most Americans. With Norman Rockwell and those like Perot goes an entire way of “thinking,” a way of seeing the world that no longer fits the secular, hedonistic, supranational, apathetic, self victimizing, hyper sexual, unloyal culture that defines many Americans today.


48 posted on 10/20/2011 4:14:31 PM PDT by Red6
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To: ichabod1
Ron Paul and Perot are not the same!

Ron Paul proposes “sound good” unrealistic popularist ideas that hit a cord among some but could NEVER work. Like Obama MOST of his sound good snippets would have to be reneged on or modified if he ever were to be elected (Iraq withdraw, no militarization of space, closing GITMO, free college...) Perot is a nationalist, a patriot, but not a fool nor did he lie to people, telling them crap he wouldn't be able to deliver.

49 posted on 10/20/2011 4:19:04 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
Yeah, how about explaining how a man whose entire business plan revolved around outsourcing managed to become a hero of the opposite?
50 posted on 10/20/2011 6:06:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Which of these venerable GOP candidates has stated that he would pull us out of NAFTA?

Barack Obama did, but only to get your vote.

51 posted on 10/20/2011 6:10:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Red6

Yep ... all that stuff is still there. Was Bin Laden’s walking cane there when you worked there? That’s an interesting piece.


52 posted on 10/20/2011 7:37:04 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: 1rudeboy
Outsourcing means that if you're VW, Lufthansa, National Alamo Car Rental, UBS, Boeing, the Veterans Administration... whatever, you might not be an expert in IT and let someone like Perot Systems design, contract for construction, run your help desk, maintain your databases, do major refresh projects and even write programs...

Outsourcing isn't a bad word. What specialization is to labor (plumber, electrician, mason), so is outsourcing to business. Even Perot Systems/EDS outsources services even though they are a recipient of IT outsourced services by others i.e. Iron Mountain, drug testing lab, Sodexo food services...

Outsourcing allows a business to manage risk better, it takes advantage of economy of scale (doing things in large volume) and increases efficiency, allows for a more constant flow of work vs on and off surges, it allows for a greater degree of specialization within an area and also for greater institutional knowledge to develop. A firm that does nothing but IT and has a dozen+ customers and 24,000 employees has the size to build a data-center, to buy equipment that if you do things in smaller scale would never be economically viable. Let car companies build cars, let a lawyer firms do what they do, but when car companies try to run an IT firm, you get what happened to Perot's old firm EDS after GM bought and ran them into the ground years past. Even the corporate cultures, the regulatory frame work etc. varies from one firm and industry to another.

Example: When National Alamo car rental outsourced their IT to Perot Systems years past, they gave that job to a large company that is specialized in that field. Truth is, experts even from other accounts can be called in for projects or emergencies and you have a IT firm with 24,000 employees that has experts ranging from programming to databases, networks, security, providing support and project management etc all at a fingertip vs a firm trying to do it in house and reinventing the wheel. A firm like Perot Systems has done hundreds of projects and when they take on a new task they have data to fall back on, pre existing channels with vendors, logistics, experts that have done dozens of projects and are PMP certified etc. They have an existing data center and in fact have several... At the end of the day, you get consistent high quality service, the risk goes down on big projects, if there are issues they can often isolate and fix it quickly and they usually can do this at a cost you can't match in house.

There is a difference between Outsourcing and Off-shoring.

But even off-shoring was inevitable after NAFTA, China joined the WTO etc.

53 posted on 10/20/2011 8:31:41 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
When Perot Systems uses (or used, I don't follow them that closely) its center in Mexico to support a U.S. client, it is engaged in outsourcing and offshoring.
54 posted on 10/21/2011 6:16:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Perot Systems doesn't have the ability to stop macro level economic trends that are created through trade agreements and change the entire operating environment of business.

There are multiple providers that offer the services which Perot Systems offer. Once NAFTA became a reality, once China joined the WTO (Something the US could have probably not even withheld them any longer- this was even larger than the US), once India came onto the world stage... the results were long term predictable. Perot the president would have fought against NAFTA, Perot the CEO wants to grow his business and survive and can't change international treaties and trade agreements, tax code, Visa policies, etc. In that sense, you have to separate the two roles, that of the CEO who is dealt a hand of cards and has to play them, and that of the policy maker that in this case can pick the cards from the stack they want to hand out to the players.

Perot the CEO founded EDS and later Perot Systems (Now Dell), creating thousands of jobs, millions in tax revenues, etc. How about they just go bankrupt and you have nothing? Would that make you happier? Would you then feel he's a more patriotic guy that holds to his word? Perot was against NAFTA and he was right, but once it became reality, he can't ignore or pretend it away.

55 posted on 10/21/2011 8:50:52 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
When the Soviet Union fell, nobody thought that the Russian Orthodox Church would rise from its ashes. The good thing about us is that the left has never defeated the conservative movement--in Europe, as you know, there is only labour, "RINO" conservatives, and so-called right-wing fanatics like LePen. Here we have a strong, STRONG cadre of faith... God, Guts, and Guns if you will. Remember what happened after 9-1-1? All the liberal, limp spaghetti left wingers hid whimpering in the corner and America looked to her Strong Men, of all colors, but predominantly working class caucasian men AND women of course (I say NON to PC disclaimers), but when the s hits the f, it's the strong men that have to do the heavy lifting.
56 posted on 10/21/2011 1:23:11 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: CynicalBear
Rick Perry’s open border and TTC dreams coming to fruition “under the radar”?

Unfortunately yes. Perry was quite proud to be one of the first statewide politicians to support NAFTA in the 1990s, and Perry has loudly complained as Governor about the restrictions on Mexican trucking.
57 posted on 10/21/2011 8:40:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ichabod1
Yes,

When push comes to shove, the “others” are decoration, they work as long as everything is going fine and things are stable. When things fall apart, it's not the gay metro sexual urban type you see behind a 50cal in a HMMWV turret.

When we deployed for Iraq, we ended up having to keep statistics (The Army don't advertise that of course) on how many female soldiers we're losing because of pregnancy; easy out for them. You didn't get the gays screaming to lead the way, you also didn't see LaShaniqua volunteering...

In the end you have a group that can do the job and a whole bunch of moochers that are simply there to get their benefits and paycheck. Everyone knows what's going on, but no one is allowed to say anything. Doing so would be racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic, the ad hominem attacks that the logical and open minded people use to argue their case.

58 posted on 10/29/2011 6:40:01 PM PDT by Red6
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What the hell is made south of the border that they are bring in to the US....that I want to buy? Nuttin! Okay, maybe a banana from Central America, okay, no, not even that!


59 posted on 11/11/2011 10:09:09 PM PST by jackieh
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