Posted on 10/19/2011 7:22:00 PM PDT by Clairity
Rick Perry's embrace of a flat tax makes the tough-talking Texas governor the unlikely political heir to Steve Forbes, the nerdy publisher and erstwhile presidential candidate.
Mr. Forbes, who ran in 1996 and 2000 and now is advising the Perry camp, said that the "concept remains the same" as his own flat tax plan from the 1990s.
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Before Perry was even a candidate he was an "all of the above" energy policy candidate and he supported the flat tax in his "Fed Up!" book.
Bump!
You don't fly Jet Fighters or become c-130 pilots for the USAF if you have a low IQ or are incapable of performing complex tasks.
But liars like yourself who dream up slanderous remarks, display their lack of class and intelligence for all to see before the thousands who read these threads daily.
I'm quite puzzled by this claim. Empowerment zones have been part of 9-9-9 since day one.
Further, in the official scoring analysis, the 9% rates themselves assume some offset for those at or below the poverty line otherwise the rates could be as low as 7%.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304198004575172190620528592.html
Europes VAT Lessons
Rates start low and increase, while income tax rates stay high.
One trait of European VATs is that while their rates often start low, they rarely stay that way. Of the 10 major OECD nations with VATs or national sales taxes, only Canada has lowered its rate. Denmark has gone to 25% from 9%, Germany to 19% from 10%, and Italy to 20% from 12%. The nonpartisan Tax Foundation recently calculated that to balance the U.S. federal budget with a VAT would require a rate of at least 18%.
VATs were sold in Europe as a way to tax consumption, which in principle does less economic harm than taxing income, savings or investment. This sounds good, but in practice the VAT has rarely replaced the income tax, or even resulted in a lower income-tax rate. The top individual income tax rate remains very high in Europe despite the VAT, with an average on the continent of about 46%.
As Americans rush to complete their annual tax returns today, there is still some consolation in knowing that it could be worse: Like Europeans, we could pay both income taxes and a value-added tax, or VAT. And maybe we soon will. Paul Volcker, Nancy Pelosi, John Podesta and other allies of the Obama Administration have already floated the idea of an American VAT, so we thought you might like to know how it has worked in Europe.
A VAT is essentially a national sales tax that is assessed at each stage of production, with the bill passed along to consumers at the cash register. In Europe the average rate is a little under 20%. In the U.S., a federal VAT would presumably be levied on top of state and local sales taxes that range as high as 10%. Some nations also exempt food, medicine and certain other goods from the tax.
In the U.S., VAT proponents arent calling for a repeal of the 16th Amendment that allowed the income tax?and, in fact, they want income tax rates to rise. The White House has promised to let the top individual rate increase in January to 39.6% from 35% as the Bush tax cuts expire, while the dividend rate will go to 39.6% from 15% and the capital gains rate to 20% next year and 23.8% in 2013 under the health bill, from 15% today. Even with these higher rates, or because of them, revenues wont come close to paying for the Obama Administrations new spending?which is why it is also eyeing a VAT.
Can you picture Perry debating Obama?
Me either !
Excellent points.
FWIW, I'm not sure if there was even any kind of significant difference (I think Graham kept more deductions).
Could Perry explain his economic plans in 1 minute? Why the need to roll it out during a debate with 1 minute rules? Makes no sense. Put it out there where you can deliver a thorough speech, let the media print it and have voters examine it. Then, open it up for discussion in the debates with talking points and defend it. Makes better sense.
lol fuzzy math:)
Your argument is one way of interpreting things. I could suggest to you that Perry was the absolute LAST candidate to decide to run and get into the race. He was/is also an acting governor. The other candidates had many more months (or years) to implement a jobs plan, a tax plan, and so on.
I could also argue that his plan(s) WILL be available for debate, in the upcoming debates. Do you recall Huntsman was asked for his jobs outline during a debate and he explained that it wasn't completed yet? He came out with one later.
Cain and Romney have had the luxury in retirement to plan and develop ideas from the peace of their living rooms and a nice Cuban cigar.
Perry's energy plan came out between the previous debate and the debate this week. I could argue that rolling out a plan DURING a debate could give a candidate more shelter because nobody has had a chance to review it and attack it.
Come on, man!
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