Posted on 10/19/2011 5:18:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Edited on 10/19/2011 6:23:26 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The battle for the Republican presidential nomination erupted into all out war tonight as Mitt Romney and Rick Perry got personal in a series of angry clashes.
Standing almost toe to toe, the two men repeatedly held up the debate as they bickered over everything from immigration to job creation.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Rick Perry: Those people who hire illegals ought to be penalized, and Mitt, you loose all of your standing from my perspective because you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year and the idea that you stand here before us and talk about that you're strong on immigration is on it's face the height of hypocrisy.
Mitt Romney: [laughs] Rick, I don't think I've ever hired an illegal in my life and so I'm looking forward to finding your facts on that because that just-
Rick Perry: I'll tell you what-
Mitt Romney: Rick again-
Rick Perry: I'll tell you the truth, the newspaper-
Mitt Romney: I'm speaking! I'm speaking! I'm speaking! I'm speaking! You get 30 seconds-
Rick Perry: It's time for you to tell the truth-
Mitt Romney: This is the way the rules work, is that I get 60 seconds-
Rick Perry: No but the American people want the truth-
Mitt Romney: -and then you get 30 seconds to respond. Anderson?! Would you please, would you please wait? Are you just going to keep talking- are you going to let me finish what I have to say?
Anderson Cooper: I thought Republicans followed the rules-
Mitt Romney: This has been a tough couple of debates for Rick and I understand that so you're going to get testy, but lets let, I'll tell you what- let me take my time and then you can take your time.
Rick Perry: Have at it.
Mitt Romney: My time is this. I have, in my, state when I was governor, I took the action of empowering our state police to enforce immigration laws. When you were governor, you said 'I don't want to build a fence'. You put in place a magnet- you talk about magnets- you put in place a magnet to draw illegals into the state which was giving $100,000 of tuition credit to illegals who come into this country. And then you have states- the big states of illegal immigrants are California and Florida. Over the last 10 years, they've had no increase in illegal immigration.Texas has had 60 per cent increase in illegal immigration in Texas. If there's someone who has a record as governor with regards to illegal immigration who doesn't stand up to muster, it's you, not me.
Rick Perry: You stood here in front of the American people and did not tell the truth- that you had illegals working on your property and the newspaper came to you and brought it to your attention and you still, a year later, had those individuals working for you. The idea that you can sit here and talk about any of us having immigration issue is beyond me. I've got a strong policy: I've always been against amnesty. You on the other hand were for amnesty.
Mitt Romney: You wrote an op-ed in the newspaper saying you open to amnesty, that's number one. Number two, we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn and they had illegal immigrants that were working there and when that was pointed out to us, we let them go-
Rick Perry: A year later?
Mitt Romney: You have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking, and what i would suggest, and if you want to become President of the United States, you've gotta let both people speak, so let me speak. So we went to the company and we said 'Look, you can't have any illegals working on my property. I'm running for office for Pete's sake! I can't have illegals.' It turns out they, once again, they had someone who had falsified their documents, had documents, and therefore we fired them. Let me tell ya, it is hard in this country, as an individual home owner, to know if people who are contractors working at your home, if they've hired people that are illegal. If I'm President we'll put in place an e-verify system, which you've opposed, to makes sure we can find out who's here legally and not and crack down on people who are here illegally.
CNN-YouTube Debate:
Sound familiar? [LOOK who interrupts whom!!]
Funny Accent Mitt Romney, discussing reports illegal immigrants did landscaping at his home: It would "not be American" to check workers' papers simply because they have a "funny accent." [give health care and education to illegals]
Sound familiar?
Mike Huckabee, replying to Romney's criticism of providing college scholarships to children of illegal immigrants: "In all due respect, we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did."
At the same debate: John McCain: "We must recognize these are God's children as well. ... I will enforce the borders first. But we won't demagogue it."
They looked like a couple of kids arguing.
I must say Romney is really bad at throwing out accusations that aren't true like amnesty, knowing Perry doesn't have time to rebut.
Good debate overall by Perry.
Once you identify an illegal it must be the law to SEND THEM BACK HOME, not give more money.
Check out Mitt and his “funny accent” rage in 2008 — This really rattles him.
Its been a tough couple of debates for both of em.
Why is it considered bad to send someone home? Usually people want to go home.
And Perry smiled when he got the money quote from Mitt:
Romney: 'Look, you can't have any illegals working on my property. I'm running for office for Pete's sake! I can't have illegals.'
Dana Perino called Rick a bully on F&F.
Romney lost this debate. He came across as a petulant little silver spooned brat.
Pray for America
The Bush's are in the bag for Romney. The Bush-Rove-Hutchison Machine couldn't unseat Gov. Perry with their primary challenge, so they're going to do it with negative comments from their well placed talking heads.
The entire slate of candidates looked more like they were running for President of the Homeowners Association than President of the USA.
Gingrich properly chastised his fellow candidates to stop bickering among themselves.
And only Romney laid his hand on Gov. Perry, unlike the article that states they touched each other.
Mitt is a bully who doesn't like to be challenged or contradicted. The 2008 exchange linked above with Rudy shows the same denial and then his angry streak and vulnerability.
Newt is well positioned to be the house mother in chief -- no one is going after him.
You're going to send her home because her mother brought her here when she was 2?? Absurd....
The debate last night showed that Perry is not Bush. He will hit back hard. I also loved that soundbite Perry got out of Mitt. It will work well in future ads.
This argument exposed Romney for the North East liberal he really is. His face was beet red. Romney is as arrogant as Oboma. They both have that self deified air about them.
Gawd. I find Romney repulsive. He's like a snake oil salesman. He'll tell you anything you want to hear, then turn around and tell the next guy something else. UGH!
Perry can couple that Mitt quote with the ones from the 2008 debate and have a powerhouse ad.
Titled: "Mitt the Hypocrite"
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