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(Live Thread) Republican Presidential Debate #8 Oct. 18, 2011 Nevada 8 P.M. EDT CNN
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 | Kristinn/ newzjunkey

Posted on 10/18/2011 4:37:49 PM PDT by kristinn

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; debate; debates; gopdebate; gopprimary; hermanator; livecnngopdebate; livevegasgopdebate; newt; nextpotus; perry; pickone; romney; santorum; vegasdebate
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To: AnnGora

Thanks, can I have an Isaac drink too? I always liked Doc the best, but then again, I am biased as I are one...


1,161 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Eaker

I guess it’s the Ron paul show AGAIN!! That clown needs to go, enough with the face time for this joker!!!


1,162 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: magritte

Don’t forget Newt was for Scozzafava. I can’t forget that and the global warming thing.

Our memories are so short


1,163 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: M. Thatcher

ditto


1,164 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Grunthor
Herman played defense pretty well on 9-9-9 and the candidates that attacked him on it either have not done their homework or have purposefully obfuscated the issue. the others say they have plans or will have plans.

Nope. That was the worst part of the debate for Cain. he did the best he could trying to defend the indefensible but he was buried in the weeds on that issue. Cain has looked great during the rest of the debate

1,165 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Servant of the Cross

Imagine MR SPEAKER in debates with The Won.

Then imagine Rick Perry.


1,166 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: Eaker

I appreciate what Texas has done. But why do Texas politicians, such as Bush and Perry, come off so, for lack of a better word, slow, in the debates?


1,167 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:01 PM PDT by teg_76
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Santorum: It is the first duty of the president to defend us.
1,168 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:01 PM PDT by McGruff (Keep the House, take the Senate.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Perry has attacked Romney at times when there was no reason to go after Romney. He still believes it is a race between him and Mitt, when it’s really Cain that he needs to worry about. His one attempt to go after Cain will, in my opinion, hurt him, because he called Herman “brother” twice. Someone, somewhere will say that label was racially motivated. I can see it now. “Why did he call the black man ‘brother’ but he never called anyone else up there ‘brother’?”


1,169 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:04 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Perry..Serious discussion on defunding the UN? HELL YEAH!!!


1,170 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:10 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: bvw

Defund UN!

Quit aid to other countries and provide for our own first. Uh, how about not funding illegals, Rick.


1,171 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:14 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yes... but I like his cut, cut, cut!


1,172 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:27 PM PDT by folkquest
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To: AlwaysFrosty

Three wives. Evangelicals hate that.

Me, I’d vote for him in a heartbeat. I don’t need a priest for President.


1,173 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:30 PM PDT by magritte
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To: justsaynomore

Thank you so much for posting that. I was looking for it myself. Cain has been saying the same things for months. Perry wasn’t even in the race. Yet his supporters think he has cornered the market on good ideas on immigration. The difference between Perry and Cain is that Perry thinks illegals are owed something. Cain knows that entitlements cost us money and draw illegals here. He wants to cut off those enticements.

Herman Cain from April 19, 2006:

The movement to grant amnesty and eventual U.S. citizenship to some 12 million illegal aliens has turned the issue from the sounds of silence to the sounds of entitlement.

The entitlement mentality did not begin in America, but it has flourished here in the last century. The American claim on entitlements to health care, retirement income and seemingly any “right” one can conceive was birthed from the womb of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal, reared by Kennedy’s New Frontier and came of age in Johnson’s Great Society. U.S. citizens, fanned by the flames of those who encourage class warfare, are increasing their demands for government-redistributed income and programs that guarantee outcomes, not opportunities. Non-citizens are now voicing the sounds of entitlement to an easy road to citizenship.

The entitlement attitude that has been ingrained in millions of Americans has blinded them to the ineffectiveness and runaway costs of their favorite programs. The fiscal challenge in meeting the future demands of the Medicare and Medicaid programs is well documented, as is the coming bankruptcy of the Social Security system. Yet few elected officials dare to even utter those programs’ names in public for fear of electoral retaliation.

Too many Americans also claim an entitlement to additional health care coverage from their employers. If they do not receive health care as a benefit, they believe the government should mandate it. The Maryland state legislature last year enacted a law requiring companies with over 10,000 employees to contribute 8 percent of total payroll to employees’ health care. The legislature is now looking at ways to require all employers, including non-profit organizations, to pay a percentage of their employees’ health care costs. Other states are considering the same plan.

Illegal aliens know they can receive free health care in hospital emergency rooms, paid for by U.S. taxpayers. A little publicized provision in the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act set aside $250 million in taxpayer dollars to reimburse hospitals for costs associated with treating illegal aliens. In a twist of logic only Congress could conceive, hospitals are barred from asking an emergency room patient if they are in the U.S. illegally. The long-run cost of this provision will surely skyrocket as hospitals continue to submit claims on coverage of people who may be illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens living and working in the U.S. have now co-opted the entitlement mentality present in too many Americans. Worse, their demands for the right to vote, guaranteed by our Constitution to citizens only, and access to social services are encouraged by elected officials trying to buy their future votes. At recent rallies Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY), to name just two, argued that illegal aliens must be allowed to remain in the U.S. and put on the path toward full citizenship rights. In other words, let’s skip the illegal part.

In addition to demands for voting rights, health care coverage and U.S. citizenship, many illegal aliens feel they are entitled to U.S. soil itself. Two groups that have helped organize the illegal alien rallies across the country, the Aztlan Movement and the Mexica Movement, believe it is American citizens who are in fact on their continent illegally. The Aztlan Movement seeks to create a separate nation comprised of northern Mexico and parts of the American Southwest, including California, Arizona and New Mexico. Members of the Mexica Movement, who waved signs at recent rallies that read “This Is Our Continent, Not Yours”, seek to completely remove Americans from North America and surrender control of the U.S. to Mexico.

The entitlement and class warfare mentality fostered for a century by liberal presidents, congressional leaders, labor union leaders and heads of liberal organizations in fact obscures their real goal. They seek complete government control of our lives and our businesses, which ultimately can only be achieved with your vote. Since the inception of the income tax code in 1913, to the birth of the Social Security system in 1935 and the programs that have followed, the end goal is always bigger government. It is also important to remember that those who occupy the positions of power will try to achieve their goal by any means possible. If it takes convincing the public that our planet is somehow warming because we drive cars with the air conditioner running, then so be it. If it takes increasing entitlement spending programs to 100 percent of the federal budget, so be it. Whatever it takes.

The United States would never have become the United States had the litany of entitlement programs and the unnatural attitudes they foster been in place in the 1800s and early 1900s. This was the time when newly freed slaves struck out to work on achieving their own dreams, when American expansion and settlement headed west, and when millions of Europeans crossed the Atlantic for a hard but better life. The only thing promised was abundant opportunity, given in exchange for assimilation and adherence to the rule of law.

We must demand that our president and Congress secure our borders and our sovereignty as a nation of laws and citizen rights. To those who enter this country legally, welcome to America. Illegal entitlement is not an option.

http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/cain1.htm


1,174 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:40 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Bushbacker1

But...but...those were just “mistakes!”


1,175 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:44 PM PDT by AnnGora (For a copy of this tagline, send 19.99 to Copy of Tagline, Pueblo, CO...)
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To: kristinn

Perry: Unfund the UN

[That will move him up a dozen points.]


1,176 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:44 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All

Again, Paul with an answer that makes him sound like a blasted hippy. “we’ve got enough weapons to blow up the world x times”...hell, whats next, “I think we should just all hold hands, because then we couldn’t be holding guns”?

Plus, Ron Paul sounds like Piglet. NO kidding. go listen to piglet, then Paul. Its eerie.


1,177 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:44 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Failure is always an option...just never a good one.)
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To: kristinn

Romney can’t answer any question directly. He’s spineless.


1,178 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:52 PM PDT by Lady4Liberty (RomneyCare funded abortions with tax money)
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To: MagUSNRET

Newt is not a leader. He is an extremely intelligent, articulate wonk.


1,179 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:52 PM PDT by maica
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To: magritte

” Dammit Newt is awesome..”

Absolutely awesome! This guy is going places when more of the electorate tunes in.


1,180 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:59 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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