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In Herman Cain's Writings, a Startling Lack of Foresight
Time Magazine ^ | Oct 16, 2011 | Mark Benjamin

Posted on 10/16/2011 4:36:50 PM PDT by Clairity

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To: MortMan

I hate sales taxes...but, these days, it’s the ONLY way (other than a lottery) to get the non-wealthy to pay ANY taxes...

Bring it on..


61 posted on 10/16/2011 5:01:55 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Clairity

You actually posted something from Time magazine? Those posts belong on DU.


62 posted on 10/16/2011 5:02:09 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Clairity

Flip Flopper? I dont see it myself... he was talking about a VAT added to our current system, then, now is talking about scrapping the current system completely and replacing it was 999. Bid difference there, apples and oranges... 999 which transitions into the fairtax, would take 2/3 of states voting to raise the national sales tax rate, a little different than leaving it up to the whatever the current congress wishes!


63 posted on 10/16/2011 5:03:23 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: MortMan

“How did I know who would have posted this, just from the title? LOL”

Didn’t EVERYONE know by now?


64 posted on 10/16/2011 5:03:45 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: jimnm

Because Obama’s commission called it a NST even though what they were proposing was a VAT. At the time Cain was simply calling it what Obama’s team was calling it even though it was in fact a VAT.

Second, Cain spent the whole article harping how disastrous this would be because it would be on TOP of all the taxes we currently pay. His plan does away with the current code entirely. That’s like saying “No, it doesn’t work putting ice cream on top of a steak, but it taste good on cake”

BTW: The cake is a lie! (Sorry, Portal joke)

Finally, his plan is to go to the Fair Tax anyway which he’s been for for years. How could he damn sales taxes and IN THE SAME ARTICLE!!! be for the Fair Tax.

Seriously dude.


65 posted on 10/16/2011 5:04:06 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: Clairity

The only thing I’m seeing is that he criticizes how sales taxes have gone up in the past, not the concept itself. During the campaign he has stated that he won’t let that happen on his watch. Naive maybe, but not flip-floppy.

Contrast that with Mitt, who was for abortion before he was against it, and Perry, who wants to forcibly inject my little girls with his staffer’s STD vaccine. I’ll take my chances on the pizza guy.


66 posted on 10/16/2011 5:05:29 PM PDT by HoosierDammit (St. Vincent de Paul, pray for us!)
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To: Clairity

I can’t tell enough difference between Romney and Obama to support one over the other. Come to think of it, their supporters are nearly identical as well.


67 posted on 10/16/2011 5:05:38 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Clairity
The only problem is the article the Time author links to is Cain writing about a VAT tax. A VAT tax and a National Sales tax are two completely different things. So, as usual, the Perrybots, along with their Leftist media allies, are lying about what Cain actually said.
68 posted on 10/16/2011 5:05:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mkmensinger
thank you...
69 posted on 10/16/2011 5:06:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Marie; Clarity
So what! Clarity has been a member since 2008. I've been here longer than you have. Others have been here longer than I have.

Clarity is on the right side of this issue. While Herman Cain would be a far better choice than Willard. M. Romney, Cain does have quite a few skeletons in his closet. I'll be reading the history of Cain's weekly commentary looking to find the devil in the details.

Like Cain's suppport for TARP back in 2008.

70 posted on 10/16/2011 5:07:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: behzinlea

“LOL! You just cain’t make this stuff up. Wait a minute. Cain can. Cain is constantly making stuff up and goes along, pulling it out of his nether regions so the Cainiacs can praise him for his common sense and striaght talk.

So he was against the sales tax before he was for it. He was for electrocuting Mexicans at the border before he decided it was a joke. He was for Romney and praised him as a conservative before he was against Romney and decided he was a liberal.

To be fair, he HAS been completely consistent in his praise for Alan Greenspan and his support of TARP.

If this gig doesn’t work out for him, he could always emigrate to Ubeki beki beki stan stan.”

ROTFL!!

You summed it up so well. :)


71 posted on 10/16/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I fear the Perrybots are Romneybots in disguise. They both use the same posting attacks of slander, lies and distortions about the opposition rather then ever making a case FOR their candidate.


72 posted on 10/16/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Clairity

The only problem is the article the Time author links to is Cain writing about a VAT tax. A VAT tax and a National Sales tax are two completely different things. So, as usual, the Perrybots, along with their Leftist media allies, are lying about what Cain actually said.


73 posted on 10/16/2011 5:09:34 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Go see my post 56 with quote and link.


74 posted on 10/16/2011 5:10:19 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
“The worst idea is a proposed national sales tax, which is a disguised VAT (value added tax) on top of everything we already pay in federal taxes.

I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Selective editing to distort the context is lying by omission.

Cain was talking about the Democrats plan to add a VAT tax on top of the existing tax code. 9-9-9 replaces, it does not add to, the existent tax code.

75 posted on 10/16/2011 5:11:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Clairity
You spend more time spinning lies for Perry or bashing Cain? I can't tell.
76 posted on 10/16/2011 5:12:32 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: deport

Good idea. When can we expect the vetting of Perry to start?

For example

Who got in the race last after it was clear Romney was not going to get any appreciable support from social conservatives?

Who did the GOP Establishment push into the race after it seem Tea Party heroine Bachmann was going to upset Romney’s ride to the nomination?

Who does the GOP Establishment see as their back up card if Romney fails?

Who has long standing intimate ties with the Liberal wing of the GOP Establishment?

The answer is Rick Perry.

Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with “the Tea party mutiny”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3

Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.

Wonder who Perry will be VP with?

Odd how that question never gets asked of Perry.

Could it be because everyone knows Perry is the GOP Establishment mole in the race to split the Tea Party/Conservative vote and hand the nomination to Romney?

Could it be because they know the ticket the GOP Machine is setting up is “Romney/Perry 2012? Think about it. Romney has the money, Perry has the idolatrous worship from the social Conservatives.

Could that be why the Perry camp is knowingly lying about Cain’s solidly Conservative record on both social and fiscal issues? Because they know full well Perry’s record can not stand close scrutiny?

What does anyone really know about Perry other then the nice words and platitudes he puts in his speeches? Looks like Perry is just Bush 3.0 another tough talking social conservative who will go to DC and be yet another good little GOP crony capitalist water boy.


77 posted on 10/16/2011 5:13:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Clairity

Somebody from Time magazine whining about lack of foresight.

Oh the irony!!


78 posted on 10/16/2011 5:14:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Clairity

Wow, you are brilliant - You have found his super secret commentaries!!!

I have been posting links to Cain’s commentaries for over a year now, ask anyone in my ping list.

You still are missing the point - he IS against VAT, always have been. 999 is not a VAT, it is POINT OF SALE. Can you please go do some reading and try to understand the two?

In fact, 999 gets rid of those pesky embedded taxes which make up 22% of everything you buy.


79 posted on 10/16/2011 5:14:29 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Clairity

Try actually READING the whole article by Cain, not selectively editing to validate your opinions.


80 posted on 10/16/2011 5:14:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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