Posted on 10/16/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by kristinn
At two campaign rallies in Tennessee on Saturday night, the Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the countrys border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.
But by Sunday morning, in a dramatic change of tone, Mr. Cain, a former restaurant executive, said he was only kidding.
Thats a joke, Mr. Cain told the journalist David Gregory during an appearance on NBCs Meet the Press, where he was asked about the electrified fence. Thats not a serious plan. Ive also said America needs to get a sense of humor.
Mr. Cains attempt to pass off incendiary comments as nothing but a joke may take more effort, however. In making the initial remarks about an electrified fence killing illegal immigrants, Mr. Cain was detailed and repetitive. He did not introduce his thoughts as anything but serious commentary, beginning with the words, We have a crisis of illegal immigration.
And the crowds responded with cheers, not laughs.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
Maybe you didn't "want" to see anyone killed, but you sure sounded pretty bloodthirsty yourself.
This is what you posted on the thread last night:
I agree, that would be heartless. Anyway, anyone dumb enough to expose their kid to that fence deserves to have them popped off.
I said it last night, and I'll say it again - that is a dispicable and vile thing to say - that whole thread really opened my eyes to what a large contingent of Cain supporters are really like. Bunch of flakes!
I took offense to it.
"so far, its only been things that turned out to bite him"
Obviously Cain will protect the borders, Perry will support the massive flow of illegals by providing free education.
Perry was not offended enough by an insensitive word on a rock when he saw it to have it removed, yet his supporters are so sensitive they decided to attack Cain for pointing it out.
The debates point out that Perry is as dumb as the rock he left in place because he was not smart enough to have it removed.
Perry supporters drive home that fact every time they post trying to cover his dumb a$$.
No more jokes, Herman. Romney is now tied with you by Rasmussen. Things are so out of sequence in America that we can’t tell a sensible plan for a joke any more.
He owns the electric fence and the shoot to kill illegals crowd.
Good for him !!
Whining!
Nor can we expect anything rational or factual from a poster dumb enough to pimp for Romney elitists Bill Kristol and the NYT.
You constantly lie about Perry. You’re no better, and maybe a little worse (because you should know better) than the MSM and the liberals.
Perry will support the massive flow of illegals by providing free education.
Lol !! How are things over at HuffPo?
I’m amazed by how you strung together multiple clever turns of phrase, without actually imparting any information whatsoever. Very impressive talent you have there!
The Perry people were rabid over this issue ignoring, apparently, the fact that Mr. Cain had addressed this issue during one of the debates.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2793387/posts?page=81#81
It's funny when Obama jokes about alligators but not funny when Cain jokes about electric fencing. Yet more hypocrisy from the left.
You should goto another site then. No sense posting to a bunch of flakes.
Do those things and illegal aliens will rapidly deport themselves at their own expense. Motivating them to leave will be much more effective than force and direct confrontation. A lot less expensive too.
Marie pegged it as a joke
To: Marie; org.whodat
Marie - It is a tongue-in-cheek statement, hyperbole, that emphasizes that he believes in strong border security. When he says it in a speech, it kills.
Marie - He serious position on border security is that it is the federal responsibility and that the border must be physically secured with many different means to meet the challenges of various terrains.
Marie, you might have just figured it out. By making statements like this, he is almost assured of being asked about it during the next debate! It makes sure that he gets some air time! Then he can present his real views! :)
Secure the border with more boots on the ground
I do believe we can secure the border with a combination of boots on the ground, technology, and a fence, but weve got three other problems. And to get to it, weve got to secure the border.
Secondly, lets promote the path to citizenship thats already there. We dont need a new one, we just need to clean up the bureaucracy thats slowing the process down and discouraging people.
The third thing we need to do, enforce the laws that are there, and the way we do it, empower the states. I believe that the people closest to the problem are the best ones to be able to solve that problem. Empower the states to do what the federal government hasnt done, cant do, and wont do. This is how we solve the entire problem.
Source: 2011 GOP debate in Simi Valley CA at the Reagan Library , Sep 7, 2011
We have a path to citizenship: its called legal immigration
Q: When Pres. Obama joked about protecting the borders with alligators and a moat, not only did you embrace the idea, you upped the ante with a 20-foot barbed wire electrified fence. Were you serious?
A: America has got to learn how to take a joke. But allow me to give you my real solution to the immigration problem. I happen to believe that is four problems.
Yes, we must secure the border with whatever means necessary.
Enforce the laws that are there.
Promote the path to citizenship thats already there. We have a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. Its called legal immigration.
And then, I happen to agree with empowering the states and allow them to deal with that issue. If we work on the right problem, we will be able to solve it.
And in the case of immigration, weve got four problems that we need to work on simultaneously. We can have high fences and wide open doors, all at the same time.
Source: Iowa Straw Poll 2011 GOP debate in Ames Iowa , Aug 11, 2011
Not right to sue Arizona for trying to protect themselves
I want to share with you my three guiding principles so you know what type of leader I will be. Three of my guiding principles that have guided my life; guided the decisions I made when I was running companies; and guided my family.
Guiding principle #1: Do the right thing. It was not right to sue the state of Arizona when they were simply trying to protect themselves. You will always be able to count on Herman Cain to do what is right.
Guiding principle #2: We have got to lead this nation from an entitlement society to an empowerment society, by getting government out of the way. Weve got to empower states to do what states do best: to solve the peoples problems at the state level. Empowerment, not entitlement
Guiding principle #3: Its not about us. We have to defend the life of the unborn. We must defend those principles that this nation was founded upon.
Source: 2011 Faith and Freedom Conference , Jun 4, 2011
Secure our borders; enforce our laws
Americans have embraced their role as the worlds premier melting pot, welcoming immigrants from every corner of the planet. We readily learn about other cultures, customs and beliefs. We appreciate those who are willing to come to this country and mak America a more vibrant and enriched place.
Americans do resent, however, the willingness of some to circumvent our laws and enter our nation illegally. While many, if not most, illegal immigrants are peaceful people simply seeking to provide for their families, some are not. In fact, some are quite dangerous, jeopardizing the safety and well-being of American citizens.
Illegal immigration also puts a tremendous strain on Americas entitlement and health care systems. In fact, several hospitals in the U.S. have declared bankruptcy as a result of the costs of caring for illegal immigrants.
We must secure our borders, enforce our laws and promote the existing path to citizenship.ÿ
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ Issues , May 21, 2011
Wheres the fence? Not in the Immigration Bill!
The Comprehensive Immigration Bill debated in the Senate last week was dead on arrival. Most regular folks kept screaming, Wheres the fence?
The Immigration Bill was supposed to be good compromise legislation. It is just bad legislation with different agendas glued together, while not emphasizing enough of the publics number one priority - the fence! Not just wire, wood and concrete, but all the technologies we have available to stop the rampant inflow of illegal aliens into this country.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, Immigration Bill , Jun 11, 2007
468 posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:28:02 PM by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who’s pilfering your wallet?)
By many Cain supporters rationale, Perry makes an off-the-cuff insensitive remark - and HE IS BRANDED FOR LIFE FOR THAT COMMENT - it is the core of their dislike for him.
But Cain makes off-the-cuff remarks that he later says “were jokes” - and that’s just hunky-dory. At least, Perry has a record of governance performance that he can be judged by. Cain has no such record in the public sector - so we don’t know if every comment he says is for real or if he will take them back a day later when he starts getting heat for it. He just throws red meat out there to get his base all drooled up.
A new kind of Cruz control.
he shouldve responded with; its a jokee- sorta like when obama said if they bring a knife to the fight well bring a gun...
THis is good.
What can the lefty media say then?
The list is endless of stupid idiotic things Ibama has said and got a pass on as well.
He could even say “all 57 states” without even referencing Ibama. Just to see if he gets a reaction.
Do prison’s use electric fences? I don’t know, but if they do then I’d think it would be legal to build an electric fence on the border. But if they don’t it’s probably because it’s either ineffective or illegal.
I know they had to stop using ground based radar because it made the illegals sterile when they were zapped by the radar for too long. Of course to me that’s win-win, but human rights courts see it differently.
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