Yes, we've a problem with illegals and something needs to be done. Erecting a Soviet or Nazi style barrier is not the answer, nor is it American.
There's a huge difference between using a fence to impound your own people, and using a fence to keep foreigners out. It's like the difference between a prison, and security doors at an apartment building. (Just don't build one of those on your northern border, please.)
“Yes, we’ve a problem with illegals and something needs to be done. Erecting a Soviet or Nazi style barrier is not the answer, nor is it American. “
How quaint. And naive. Actually, Cain’s proposal is as American as, well, a white picket fence. Nobody is advocating killing innocent people, and making that leap of logic is absurd.
Amen.
As to the Narco terrorist, they get what they deserve.
“To 10 - Thanks for a rational post. This is utter lunacy. Killing people who dare seek a better life. “
I just doubt that there are that many “Compassionate Conservatives” who aren’t already lined up with Romney.
Now you can pretend that the slave wage employers are simply helping people to have a better life but many of us think they are engaged in predatory practices that should be subject to capital punishment.
So far I haven't seen any of you people on the other side propose any sort of compromise ~ like maybe executing only every other illegal employer, or simply sending them abroad themselves to Uganda perhaps to work as free labor on a vegetable farm.
“It’s about hatred for Mexicans.”
Right, we’re heartless bigots. We understood it when your candidate said it too.
The United States of America has laws that allow for anyone to seek citizenship.
I don't know where you live but in our community we have illegals that law enforcement can't event communicate with and children in school that don't know one word of English so there are now special programs.
Perhaps there should just be a nice big happy van at the border where folks can line up either from the north or the south and deliver them to your State or Community to support, monitor and take care of for the rest of their lives. Personally, I've got better things to do with my salary, including helping those United States citizens that need a hand up in life!
For many this isn't about illegal immigration per se. It's about hatred for Mexicans. For any self-described Christian advocating this, it is reprehensible. Yes, we've a problem with illegals and something needs to be done. Erecting a Soviet or Nazi style barrier is not the answer, nor is it American.
Absolutely agree. Cain would have been better off advocating sending in Special Forces to take down the vicious drug cartels instead. Those are the professed enemies of this nation, not the guy coming over to wash dishes. Patrol the hell out of the border. Fine. An electric fence? Let's just drop an atomic bomb on Mexico City and get it over with.
I've been promoting Cain for the last two weeks. But after studying the ramifications of 999 and now this, IMHO, Cain has a loose screw.
Gingrich might be the darkhorse before this is said and done.
“Yes, we’ve a problem with illegals and something needs to be done. Erecting a Soviet or Nazi style barrier is not the answer, nor is it American. “
I disagree.
Faced with unrestrained hordes (and I chose that word carefully) streaming across our border, the only thing that will indeed “restrain” their movement is a physical barrier of some sort.
Where the third world pushes against the first, we must offer resistance. Otherwise, the effect will be that of a burgeoning river overflowing its banks and inundating those on the shore.
Words won’t stop them.
Laws won’t stop them.
Even “taking away their benefits” won’t stop them — because even without such benefits, many (if not most) of them will be far better off _here_, then they were _there_.
I spent a year in Germany, 1971, care of the U.S. Army. During that time, I took something called the “Berlin Orientation Tour”, where American troops spent a week in the divided city.
Part of the tour was a trip to The Wall. It was imposing, actually two walls with a security strip in between, and the Stasi driving around in their vehicles. Yes, some East Germans got through it. But, by and large, the Berlin Wall did what it was constructed to do. That is, it prevented movement across the border.
But I did more than observe The Wall. I _went through_ it, in uniform, at Checkpoint Charlie and toured the communist East. Got to stroll around a bit unaccompanied for a couple of hours. Quite an experience, to actually have been behind the Iron Curtain, as an American soldier, in uniform.
Walls _do_ work, when nothing else will.
Having written that, if indeed Mr. Cain made a comment about “an electric fence”, that ain’t gonna help him much. Not much at all....
Just sayin’...
“For many this isn’t about illegal immigration per se.”
No, it’s about illegal immigration.
Not per se.