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To: VinL
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner. If it isn't satire then Cain won't even be VP....
10 posted on 10/15/2011 4:24:38 PM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: Porterville

“It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner.”

The problem Republicans have had over the last twenty years is that there are too many of you.


20 posted on 10/15/2011 4:27:41 PM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Porterville
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner. If it isn't satire then Cain won't even be VP....

Huh? Why not? Logistically an electric fence may not work alone, but put our guards on it...

22 posted on 10/15/2011 4:28:49 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Porterville

“If he really said this then his rise is over”
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Agree


26 posted on 10/15/2011 4:30:13 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: Porterville
It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner.

Exactly, he forgot to add Alligators to his mote, and for that reason I can no longer support him...

33 posted on 10/15/2011 4:33:37 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Porterville

“If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner. If it isn’t satire then Cain won’t even be VP.... “

That’s right. What we need is land mines and snipers...


82 posted on 10/15/2011 4:46:59 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Porterville
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner. If it isn't satire then Cain won't even be VP...

Why? Because he believes in the rule of law? Any elected official who condones illegal immigration should be put in jail. This selective law enforcement has got to stop.

97 posted on 10/15/2011 4:51:08 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Porterville
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner. If it isn't satire then Cain won't even be VP....

It's just more Red Meat that fits on a bumper sticker:

"Cain in 2012 for Electric Fence in 2013!"

Back in the days of the Lincoln-Douglas Debates, the first candidate spoke for 60 minutes, the second spoke for 90 minutes and then the first candidate spoke again for 30 minutes. Americans back then may their decision based on the full extent of information.

Today, far too many Americans make their decision by reacting to silly Sound Bites made during 30 second responses.

Fence = Good

"No Fence in the middle of the desert" = "Perry supports illegal immigration"

The fact of the matter is THE FENCE STRATEGY ADVOCATED BY PERRY IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE FENCE STRATEGY USED BY THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

One of my old Navy Captains used to say, "Load brain before firing mouth". However, "loading the brain" takes effort. Is is far easier to be a loose cannon and simply fire statements such as:

"No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the State of Israel supports Palestinian terrorist infiltrators to me".

"No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the Governor of Texas supports supports illegal immigration to me."

Here are the facts:

The map below represents the Israeli Fence on its southern border.

An Israeli Prime Minister would describe it like this:

"Strategic fencing along the border, especially in high traffic areas where manpower alone is insufficient to do the job."

That quote, however, are the words of Governor Perry.

In the areas corresponding to and extending 50 km (31 miles) from the high population areas of Gaza and the Gulf of Acaba shore, the Israelis have built their Fence.

In the middle of nowhere in the Negev Desert (which corresponds to the middle of nowhere in the Texas Desert), THE ISRAELIS HAVE BUILT NO FENCE.

That area can be easily patrolled with air assets and Israeli troops can be sent where needed to easily round up crossers struggling to travel through the middle of the Negev Desert. The Negev Desert region of the southern Israeli border is the EXACT equivalent of the Texas desert regions of the U.S. southern border.

Any crosser stupid enough to attempt to cross a well patrolled desert border is intercepted within an hour when helos appear overhead and "Boots on the Ground" follow shortly thereafter because Rick Perry made them available.

"Border Leader"

"Border"

Building a Fence in the middle of the desert does absolutely NOTHING since a Fence in the middle of the desert is defeated in seconds.

YouTube Video: Watch how fast illegal aliens can climb over, cut through and go under the worthless Border Fence

Electrify a Fence in the midle of a desert?

It will be subjected to dozens of dynamite attacks daily until it is nothing more the Swiss cheese.

Why have the Israelis adopted this particular Fence strategy?

Because it WORKS.

The Israelis base their defense strategies on what WORKS and not on the knee-jerk emotionalism of "No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like the State of Israel supports Palestinian terrorist infiltrators to me".

But, why shouldn't Texans just favor building a Fence along it's entire southern border just to please those who claim "No Fence in the middle of the desert sounds like Texans support illegal immigration"?

For very practical reasons.

1.) A FENCE IN THE TEXAS DESERT AREAS WOULD CUT OFF RANCHER'S CATTLE FROM THEIR RIO GRANDE WATER SOURCE.

2.) A FENCE IN THE TEXAS DESERT AREAS WOULD BE A MASSIVE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAND GRAB THAT WOULD STEAL THE ENTIRE RIO GRANDE RIVERFRONT FROM RIVERFRONT PROPERTY OWNERS AND GIVE IT TO MEXICO.

119 posted on 10/15/2011 4:58:33 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One.)
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To: Porterville
To 10 - Thanks for a rational post. This is utter lunacy. Killing people who dare seek a better life.
For many this isn't about illegal immigration per se. It's about hatred for Mexicans. For any self-described Christian advocating this, it is reprehensible.

Yes, we've a problem with illegals and something needs to be done. Erecting a Soviet or Nazi style barrier is not the answer, nor is it American.

132 posted on 10/15/2011 5:02:44 PM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin & Sowell do.)
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To: Porterville

“If he really said this then his rise is over.”

So, it’s open borders, no fence, no border patrol, with signs that say, ‘Come one, come all’...that’s what you want, eh? Maybe you need a candidate like O’Rom-Perry...more to your liking?


225 posted on 10/15/2011 5:33:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Porterville
Most of our Military Bases utilize electric fences, so it's nothing new and evidently an accepted means of keeping folks out!

The fences give you a mild shock. Most of them give the shock at the chain link fence level and then have 3 stacks of razor wire on top. If someone attempts to climb the fence an alarm is sounded at a central command, the climber gets automatically shocked.

It's a guess, but I think these may be the same systems used at Federal Penitentiaries.

Effective and economical!

304 posted on 10/15/2011 6:12:22 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: Porterville

How dare you talk common sense to the Cainiacs. Don’t forget- NO NEW TAXES (well except for Cain’s 9% sales tax- that’s not really a tax, because businesses will be paying less)


797 posted on 10/16/2011 5:30:52 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?)
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To: Porterville
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner.

I dunno if his rise is over, but rhetoric like that is best left to these boards. If he keeps this up, he will marginalize himself, despite all the other good things he has going for him.

804 posted on 10/16/2011 5:47:08 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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