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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...

Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..

It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.

“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: New York
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To: Flightdeck
Like your tagline...:oP


601 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:41 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: TigersEye

“It wasn’t “bogus” when BobL first posted it. “

I agree...it certainly doesn’t look bogus to me.


602 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:53 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

It was never implemented.

Perry is not the one who dreamed up the TTC. It was presented to him by the Tx-Dot because of the Panama Canal expansion and the anticipated increase of cargo to Texas Ports. They were addressing what they thought might put a burden on the current highway system.

The Trans-Texas Corridor never happened - Perry put a stop to it.

http://www.texasgopvote.com/2012-presidential-election/most-conservative-state-representative-texas-endorses-rick-perry-president-expla-003248

The following week several of us met with Governor Perry and the TXDOT Commissioner and Executive Director to share the frustration and opposition of our constituents across the state to the TTC.

After a lengthy meeting, Governor Perry did something that has made me respect him as I have no other leader which I have observed or served alongside.

He sat back in his chair, gave our arguments thought and said, “Tell your constituents you talked to the Governor, and the Trans-Texas Corridor is no more.”

To this day, the handful of legislators in attendance at that meeting have respected Rick Perry—a man who was confident, honest, and exhibited absolute integrity to his citizens.

He often does not receive the proper recognition and credit he deserves for his decisive response to the will of Texas citizens against the TTC.

When presented with their objections and opposition, he brought a halt to the ill-conceived TTC. This is in stark contrast to our current President who sees the destructive results of his policies and has no intention of admitting fault or changing course, but instead blames everyone else for his errors in judgment.

From his action to end the TTC to his signature on legislation to protect the rights of coastal property owners struggling to recover and rebuild in the aftermath of a hurricane, Rick Perry has responded to Texan landowners’ concerns about private property rights.

I was one of those 125 landowners who faced a loss of property to be determined by a governmental agency’s assessment of where grass grew before and after a hurricane.

I applauded Governor Perry as he stood with the Texas House and Senate (and eventually the Texas Supreme Court) against some very vocal opposition to sign into law Rep. Hamilton’s bill preventing a potential land grab by the state.

In this past session, Governor Perry declared eminent domain reform legislation an emergency item and saw it all the way through the legislative process until he signed it into law, strengthening the rights and protections of private property owners across Texas.


603 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:10 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: BobL

You may be giving this particular individual too much credit.


604 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:13 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: BobL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2725960/posts

Here’s me being a Cain fan back in May. Before Perry even entered.

Look, I was Fred, then Sarah via McPain, then Cain, then Perry.

Only Perry can bulldoze zero. Thus I am Perry now.


605 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:33 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: cookcounty
If fences don’t work, why is there one around the White House?????

Yeah I love these fences will never work type...ever seen a prison without a fence around it? And how many government elite types live in fenced and gated communities?

606 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:38 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: NYCslicker
How many babies have you seen climbing fences lately?

Yeah the pro illegal immigration argument gets more ridiculous every day....

607 posted on 10/15/2011 9:51:18 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: hocndoc

“You are just wrong about Gardasil. First, the Governor had legislative authority to do what he did.”

Yep, I agree. But he DID say that he regrets not using the legislature to mandate Gardacil. He NEVER said the idea of government mandating was wrong...so I believe he’s still into that stuff.

“Second, he gave the opt out more publicity than it had ever had before and made that opt out easier.”

That’s mighty big of him. But I’ll live in the Northeast or California if I want a nanny governor. I’m perfectly capable of taking care my daughters’ health needs.

“It’s ethically made the same way we make insulin and the hepatitis B vaccines that all babies get these days. “

You can keep calling Texans IDIOTS for overreacting to the mandate all you want. But I doubt it endears you to them.


608 posted on 10/15/2011 9:52:00 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: South40
Question the motives of anyone who tells you that border fences don't work. They probably have an agenda that they are hiding.

They absolutely have an agenda...like running a business with all illegal labor, etc....

609 posted on 10/15/2011 9:53:28 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: mylife

“Poor old Rick Perry cant take a whiz without being accused of fondling his fudgies, but Mr Cain seems to be able to say the most outrageous things with no criticism.”

Yea, it’s OUTRAGEOUS to have a plan THAT WILL WORK to secure the border.

...in fact, maybe it is. Perhaps we should take Perry’s approach and simply coddle illegals. Much less outrageous.


610 posted on 10/15/2011 9:53:58 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: TexMom7

I doubt BobL will witness your testimony.

He has his fingers in his ears


611 posted on 10/15/2011 9:54:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lady Lucky

“American troops have a hard time shooting combatants in Afghanistan because of innocent civilians in the vicinity; tell me they’ll be permitted to shoot down balloons with pregnant women and children aboard.”

It depends. As I recall, orders to the troops ultimately map up to the Commander in Chief. If we have one that’s heartless, there is a very good chance that we’ll be taking out those balloons.


612 posted on 10/15/2011 9:57:04 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: txhurl

And the RED MEAT crowds/CRAZIES are loving it.


613 posted on 10/15/2011 9:59:57 PM PDT by jgge
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To: mylife

“We do have need for new infrastructure in Texas as people are flocking here for the economy, so how do we fund/ build new roads?”

The gas tax seems to work. Of course Perry let it lapse in his quest to turn over control of our highways to foreign interests.


614 posted on 10/15/2011 10:00:03 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: VinL

Does Cain have a clue what this border looks like and WHY you cannot build a freaking fence on most of the border? Heck, the border patrol cannot even get to a large part of the AZ border and in Texas, who is going to tell the cows of ranchers who have ranches on the border that “oh, BTW you can’t get a drink of water out of the river now because the president has created an electric fence that will electrocute you.”..... sheesh!


615 posted on 10/15/2011 10:00:41 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mylife

And that’s where we are. EmployERS LOVE illegals for the same reason employEES hate them.

We can never be free from the evils of slavery. Ever.


616 posted on 10/15/2011 10:01:18 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: jgge

“We do not kill unarmed civilians, including illegal immigrants, neither by bullets nor by electrocution nor by any other means. We live in the United States of America and not in the old Soviet Union. Herman Cain the TALKER throwing more stupid red meat bumper sticker rhetoric to the Red Meat crowds who are very close to be called the Crazies.”

Maybe it is time to protect our borders. Anyway, after a dozen of so of them are whacked, there won’t be a need to shoot any more. (i.e., that will pretty much end the problem, at least until we elect another open-borders president, like Perry)


617 posted on 10/15/2011 10:02:33 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: org.whodat

The Perrywinkles are soiling their britches over this.

They probably think Cain is a “heartless” racist. Lol


618 posted on 10/15/2011 10:03:03 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: Niteflyr

Are you seriously comparing a fence around a prison (with armed guards in turrets by the way, so guess even prisons don’t totally rely on the fence)

to a fence along the southern border of Texas?

No wonder you like Cain.

With him, it’s so simple. Zap, fence, 999.


619 posted on 10/15/2011 10:04:38 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

“Your tag line is indicative of your intelligence.”

...and your tag line is indicative of how detached from reality you are.


620 posted on 10/15/2011 10:05:02 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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