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This is WORSE than Watergate because people died here.
1 posted on 10/15/2011 9:39:42 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist
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To: New Jersey Realist

This was obvious from the minute I heard about it. Whay hasn’t Wayne LaPierre been all over the media publicizing this from the beginning?


2 posted on 10/15/2011 9:42:52 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

NRA weighs in as well.
And no more pings from me ‘til after lunch.
(Yayyy) I hear you. LOL
Look sharp.


3 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:13 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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>>This is WORSE than Watergate because people died here.

Agreed. This is a plot against the Constitution and every person involved who EVER swore an oath to that Constitution is in violation of their oath. People should hang for this treason.


4 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:21 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

“Who will protect us from our protectors?” - Mark (R.I.P.) Scott


5 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: HiJinx

NRA Ping


6 posted on 10/15/2011 9:48:26 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: New Jersey Realist
It will be interesting to hear the spin when the MSM finally gets around to discussing the motivation of the ATF in flooding Mexico with guns. It seems like "tracking the guns" was just a cover story since absolutely no effort was made to actually track the guns once they were sold.

Creating a crisis is the MO of this administration and the only explanation that makes any sense.

8 posted on 10/15/2011 9:49:06 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-The government gets rich, you get poor.)
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“Our job is to protect the Second Amendment and that means that every gun owner, every Second Amendment supporter needs to do everything they can to make sure that President Obama does not get a second term so that he can destroy the Second Amendment.

“This is the most dangerous election in our lifetime for the Second Amendment freedom that American citizens have. A second term by President Obama will break the back of that freedom in this country.”

Well, it’s so nice to read this and other info that NRA is reporting on F&F, but if the threats to our liberties resulting from elections mean so much to LaPierre you’d think he’d quit supporting Reid and such.

A bunch of people and entities that I have little respect for, but who have extremely wide audiences, are now reporting on this in a crescendoing pattern, and that’s a good thing.

Makes me happy I went to a range with my wife yesterday (indoor pistol), am going to a different one today (outdoor rifle), and will be going to a gun show next week. I like to exercise my rights - so they don’t atrophy.


11 posted on 10/15/2011 9:57:57 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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The family of the murdered border patrol agent should file a civil lawsuit against Obama, Holder, Neopolitan now!!!

Mexico should file a criminal complaint against the same actors in the World Criminal Court...


13 posted on 10/15/2011 10:05:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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This report below leaves our an important correction by one of the cited reporters which shows guns to Mexico were about 12% NOT 90% AND LEAVES OUT ANY MENTION OF FAST AND FURIOUS. WHERE ARE THE REPORTERS ON THIS? Colby Goodmans report of correction was originallyin April 2011 and before the Feinstein Report-Now Colby’s April report has disappeared from the internet.
A REPORT BY SENATORS DIANNE FEINSTEIN, CHARLES SCHUMER
AND SHELDON WHITEHOUSE

June, 2011
http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Files.View&FileStore_id=beaff893-63c1-4941-9903-67a0dc739b9d

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/MINORITY/630%20gun%20forum/CG%20Statement%20Oversight%20Forum%20on%20Firearms%20to%20Mexico1.pdf

http://mexicoinstitute.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/new-reportu-s-firearms-trafficking-to-mexico-new-data-and-insights-illuminate-key-trends-and-challenges/

reference to Colbys April report:

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-st-louis/author-of-study-quoted-by-anti-gun-groups-changes-story-implicates-gunwalker

disappeared from here:
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/news/docs/Goodman%20Update%20on%20US%20Firearms%20to%20Mexico.pdf


17 posted on 10/15/2011 10:26:11 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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"We're still pushing for more gun control, but we have to do it under the radar."


18 posted on 10/15/2011 10:27:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I remember Obama talking about some gun-control options they were working on ‘under the radar’ not long before all of this broke.

I’m thinking that Fast & Furious is what he was referring to.

That question should be asked publically and frequently. Not looking for an answer (of course the answer will be a lie), but to keep connecting the two in the minds of Americans.


19 posted on 10/15/2011 10:34:02 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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The Activism sidebar is reserverd for Activism of the FR chapters.

Not this.

Please quit placing very article you post in the Activism sidebar.


21 posted on 10/15/2011 10:44:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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This should not be treated lightly. Subverting the constitution, illegally running guns to enemies of the United states used in the murder of active duty law enforcement with these same guns by the enemy is treason!
Why are there not more representatives screaming about this? Same as supplying Al quida terrorists with weapons to fight American soldiers on the battlefield. Resignation is not good enough prosecution and jail time is demanded


22 posted on 10/15/2011 10:45:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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It’s not enough for just Holder to step down. This goes to the top. You are correct - much WORSE than Watergate.


24 posted on 10/15/2011 10:53:21 AM PDT by jersey117
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This is not the first time an event was staged in order to create an outcry for more gun control.

The first was in 1993 in Waco, TX at the Branch Davidian compound.

The BATFE screwed that one up as well.

But who are two key figures involved in both Waco and Fast&Furious?

Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder

Remember Bill “if you elect me you get two for the price of one” Clinton and his brilliant wife who was not discredited yet from her attempt at socialized medicine.

Remember Eric Holder who quit as a Superior Court Judge to join the Clintons at the Department of Justice and eventually took over towards the end of Clinton’s second term?


27 posted on 10/15/2011 11:22:44 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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There really isn’t any other logical explanation for the Administration’s actions. No one could be so stupid as to think that it’s possible to track weapons once they cross the border; so their claim that this is part of an investigation is simply a lie. The gun grabbers in DC have been claiming for years that there is an “iron river of guns” flowing into Mexico. (And hence the “need” for more gun control legislation on this side of the border.) Since this claim isn’t true, and never was, they made their own river.


30 posted on 10/15/2011 12:10:17 PM PDT by Redcloak (Sans Couth)
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Hey Wayne, Mitt Romney DOES NOT have a positive history on RKBA. He will not even consider the 2nd amendment when appointing judges.


33 posted on 10/15/2011 1:25:19 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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This is WORSE than Watergate because people died here.

Right. Whatever you say....

34 posted on 10/15/2011 2:47:10 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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In ever put all this assault on the second amendment stuff together until I read a piece on WWII and why the japs didn't go into Calllyfornuh and keep on going since all our soldiers were fighting the Germans,until they hit the Midwest.

Here's what I found out and don't have the link unfortunately, its in one of my emails.

Seems that one state i think Wis. or one of those had 700,000 guns registered in it and the japs knew it. They figured even if the US army didn't stop them they would have to fight it out every farm house in the country so they stopped at Pearl Harbor.

Seems the regime is under a similar style(proving they are the enemy from within) of thought if you put it all together. First they make ammo scarce and now Gunwalker. Who knows what else we have not uncovered as well.

Second amendment is definitely under assault along with the total decimation of the US or as far as they can go until we stop them.

36 posted on 10/15/2011 3:05:10 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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It’s waaaaay past time to acknowledge that this whole thing originated in the Oval Office of the White House, and the current Chief Executive should step up and admit it.


40 posted on 10/15/2011 3:31:25 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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