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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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To: mylife; magritte
Perry is running out of cash. In the most astute post I read today magritte pointed out that the Christie endorsement was a bundler signal. My guess is that the bundlers Perry did bring on early are already largely falling by the wayside.

Reality is not as you want it but as it is.

1,781 posted on 10/11/2011 9:24:53 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: LUV W

Damn skippy! It lowers energy cost and adds more jobs.
I built oil well caps as a young man.

We installed them in the NE Ohio countryside and I never saw a dead cow beside the well from the horror of it.

Most people don’t even notice the well.


1,782 posted on 10/11/2011 9:25:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: make no mistake
Maybe he can if he gets his supporters to switch to the Republican party... Image and video hosting by TinyPic
1,783 posted on 10/11/2011 9:25:42 PM PDT by PAConservative1 (Would you like to sponsor a young illegal's college tuition? Vote Perry!)
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To: make no mistake
He’s(Perry) going to win the GOP nomination for President in 2012

Leaving money on the table is rarely wise. Believe what you like though.

1,784 posted on 10/11/2011 9:26:42 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: EDINVA

“whoever gets the nomination will need a partner on the ticket with DC experience.”

Whoever gets the nomination will need a VP who can bring in substantial parts of the country’s vote, OR Cut Obama’s base off at the knees.


1,785 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Norman Bates
Perry is running out of cash.

Huh?
1,786 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:13 PM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: ReaganBaby26; RitaOK; South40

Uh.. RitaOK’s comment @ 1601 to South 40 was so offensive it was removed. So then again... who is posting offensive comments? Why not cut through this and just support your guy honestly without the personal attacks and vitriol for those who critique him? I still have not seen a good defense for Perry’s in-state tuition for illegals. Waiting for a good reason why they get something legal citizens from Arizona or New Mexico or wherever else can’t get. Just because someone has a differing opinion of your guy does not make them a “liar” or a “troll” (to quote RitaOK).


1,787 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:14 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: RitaOK; altura; antceecee; South40
Emotions and tempers are running high and hot.

Folks need to focus on who the enemies are: Rats and RINOs.

That being said, one of the candidates that we saw tonight (excluding Obama) is going to be POTUS. NONE, repeat NONE of the candidates are perfect. In fact, most are FARRRRRRRRRR from it. But, with the exception of Romney (IMO), any of the GOP side would be an improvement over Obama, as Newt said last night.

Attacking each other is not productive. Attack the enemy.

“These people” don't like Rick Perry. Fine. “Those people” don't like Herman Cain. Fine. But, when discussing candidates, use that candidate's record, the facts about that person, in discussion. The personal crap is DU or Daily Kos stuff. Unfortunately, there has been a lot of idiotic shit thrown around FR the last month or two.

Save the fight for the true enemies. Right now, to me anyway, that means stopping Romney from being the GOP POTUS nominee.

1,788 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:13 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: antceecee

I didn’t see it, but I take your word on it.


1,789 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:34 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: sockmonkey

It’s that way all over. I don’t know why MORE unemployed aren’t flocking down here.

I get frustrated when I hear of so many being unemployed for so long and then are unwilling to come to where there ARE jobs!


1,790 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:39 PM PDT by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: wmfights
I like, and still like Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich

That could be a strong ticket. If Gingrich is VP he could handle special projects.

Great idea Newt is like a bulldog, he is smart and knows his way around DC.

1,791 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:46 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: GOPsterinMA
RE :" Cain? I’ll say it for the 10,000th time: he’s a shill for Romney. Remember, he backed him in 2008, after RomneyCare was signed into law. Love how he “went after” Romney in last night’s debate..."

Yes, this is what I fear too that he wants a position under Romney.

But at this stage Cain is still the most interesting candidate in the race and if Romney gets it and he gives Cain something like VP for staying on Perry then F them both.

The bad thing is a Christie run would have taken votes from Romney and so now Romney doesnt have to split the RINO vote.

1,792 posted on 10/11/2011 9:29:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: GOPsterinMA

Fair enough.


1,793 posted on 10/11/2011 9:30:45 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Norman Bates

Cain is running out of cash and running out of 999.


1,794 posted on 10/11/2011 9:31:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; onyx
Excuse me, YOU are the one spewing hate. I do not hate anyone. You owe me an apology because you can’t even tell me who it is that I hate.

Let's say it together, onyx:

"You Hate Palin."

Cheers!

1,795 posted on 10/11/2011 9:31:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RitaOK; ReaganBaby26

Please see my post in this thread, #1,788.

Folks need to tone the rhetoric down a few notches and focus on the enemies.


1,796 posted on 10/11/2011 9:31:23 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: antceecee

Thank you! I sincerely mean it.


1,797 posted on 10/11/2011 9:32:34 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: sockmonkey
It seem that most states give instate tuition to illegals.

Actually, the number is 13 which is clearly not 'most'.

State Actions
In June 2001, Texas (HB1403) was the first state to pass legislation allowing in-state tuition for immigrant students, followed by California (AB540), Utah (HB144), and New York (SB7784) in 2001-2002; Washington (HB1079), Oklahoma (SB596) and Illinois (HB60) in 2003; Kansas (HB2145) in 2004; New Mexico (SB582) in 2005; Nebraska (LB239) in 2006; Wisconsin (A75) in 2009; Maryland (S167/H470) and Connecticut (H6390) in 2011.

States that have barred unauthorized immigrant students from in-state tuition benefits include Arizona (Proposition 300, 2006), Colorado (HB 1023, 2006), Georgia (SB 492, 2008), South Carolina (HB4400, 2008), and Indiana (H 1402, 2011).

http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=13100

1,798 posted on 10/11/2011 9:32:55 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: ReaganBaby26

You think million dollar bundlers will continue to finance a campaign like that? A major campaign needs a steady flow of scores of $2500 donors which Perry will not get any longer.


1,799 posted on 10/11/2011 9:33:22 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: GOPsterinMA

Very kindly welcomed and accepted.


1,800 posted on 10/11/2011 9:34:25 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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