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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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To: Dengar01

It’s crossed my mind on several occasions now, that Perry might be medicated. Surely nobody’s that bad naturally. I wanted him to do better, clearly he isn’t going to do better, and he should give it up now. :(


1,501 posted on 10/11/2011 7:30:41 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: RitaOK

I’m all in with Perry. He’s by far the best man up there. I love Newt and fully expect a cabinet position for him — we NEED New — but I just don’t see it happening with him for president. We’ll see, though. If his numbers climb and stay up there...we’ll see.


1,502 posted on 10/11/2011 7:30:48 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Nope, missed it but I caught the woman who said she was told to address her question to Romney.

I missed that one, very telling.

1,503 posted on 10/11/2011 7:31:02 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: struggle

Hunstman “999 sounds like a pizza price” joke was lifted from Karl Rove on yesterday’s Hannity radio show.


1,504 posted on 10/11/2011 7:31:06 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Reily

actually Continentals is a poor example, there were plenty of state bank notes from then. I have some examples in my collection.


1,505 posted on 10/11/2011 7:31:40 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Cato in PA

I agree with every well-placed letter of every eloquent word in your post.


1,506 posted on 10/11/2011 7:31:54 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: dragnet2

maybe!


1,507 posted on 10/11/2011 7:31:54 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: behzinlea

I agree with your analysis.


1,508 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:06 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: FourtySeven
Romney says "I think Obama is sincere, but he is over his head."

Oh Sheesh, how NAIVE can you get get!!

Has this guy not heard of Cloward Pivens and how Obama purposely wants to run America in the ditch?

1,509 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (To all good FRiends who supported Gov. Palin. I never badmouthed her. Please now join us w/ MR. CAIN)
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To: Arcy; Irish Eyes
Perry even motions and gestures the way Bush does.

You ain't seen nothin' yet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiJhmoFKkw

1,510 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:45 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Newt is always a good interview. Cain up next on Greta.


1,511 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:45 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Parley Baer

“I’m re-thinking the Newt. Even with his “baggage””

Oh, me too! Newt is head and shoulders above them all on brains and experience. Given the times, I’m about to throw out the past on Newt too. He just fires on all cylinders every time he opens his mouth and the intellect thing is overpowering to obama the zero.


1,512 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:00 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: mylife

Whoa,

I just finished watching this debate. I thought Herman Cain did fine. I believe Luntz’s focus group will back that up:

Debate Performances:

1. Cain (Did what he had to do)
2. Gingrich (Did what he always does at debates)
3. Romney (Untouched and unscathed by the competitors, I’m beginning to think that both Bachmann and Santorum are in the fix for Mitt. Neither took it to Romney, and they both went after Cain and Perry).

The problem I’m having is Cain doesn’t seem to have a problem with Romney. Judging from Newt’s past endorsements, I don’t think he’s going to go hard after Romney either

5 other people on this stage (Huntsman and Paul don’t count), and not one of them will go after Romney. Perry looked neutered tonight. I didn’t want to believe it, but Romney’s question to Bachmann and her relentless attacks on Perry lead me to believe she’s in the Romney camp. And judging from Santorum’s actions tonight, but giving kind words about Romney on a FOX interview, he is going that way also. I have no doubt if Cain exited where his endorsement would go.


1,513 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:34 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: federal__reserve
For example if your paycheck is $50,000, you are paying $7650 in payroll tax! Out of that 50,000, after you pay federal tax, state tax, city tax, mortgage, car payment, savings, how much money you have left to buy stuff with? It is not a difficult arithmetic. My guess you will have less than $20,000 left to spend on which you will pay less than $1800 federal sales tax.

First of all you are totally and completely WRONG. On $50,000 you only have deducted $3,825 (actually less then that while the 2% break is in place) but the other 7.65% does not get deducted from your check, it is matched by your employer. With both social security and medicare on the verge of bankruptcy with the 7.65% from you and the 7.65% from your employer, imagine what will happen to it if it's reduced to 9%.

1,514 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:46 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: shield
Perry did very well. I thought he was just fine.

I agree. He doesn't have to be the pretty boy at the debates, that's going to be Gingrich. Perry has the resume. He was solid and looks like a man that means what he says.

I wasn’t impressed with Cain tonight. Like in his other debates.

He was under the spotlight. Also, Santorum absolutely destroyed Cain when he asked the audience if they thought the 999 plan would stay 999 and Cain could only respond it would as long as he was POTUS. We all know that won't be forever.

1,515 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Dump huntsman, backmann and santorum, just like you say. Doubtful Newt or Paul can be elected but at least they have serious things to add to the debate.
1,516 posted on 10/11/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: South40

Another reason I hate awards and (1) the folks who push to give them and (2) the fools who wear them like badges of honor once gotten.

I do have some awards I consider precious. My BSA Tote & Chip badge, or first aid and EMT certifications. The rest are all bunk.


1,517 posted on 10/11/2011 7:34:03 PM PDT by bvw
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I like Cain and the more I see of him, the more I like him.

Newt one the night and if the election were held tomorrow, He would get my vote.

I wanted to see Perry to do much better than he did tonight, but he just never got there for me.

Fox and the media will give the night to RINO Romney and some of it to Cain, but Newt earned the prize... and he might just win my vote.

Now if I can just get that pic of the couch out of my mind. lol


1,518 posted on 10/11/2011 7:34:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~)
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To: Arcy
Perry even motions and gestures the way Bush does. I honestly think that Perry would simply be Bush Pt. 3.

Nope they are really not that much alike.

1,519 posted on 10/11/2011 7:34:35 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: tsowellfan

The question is WHO she will back? Newt? Rick? ???

I’ll still maintain that Cain is a shill for Romney, and I’m sure she sees it as well.

Christie? He’ll only shore up the NE RINO vote for Mitt. I don’t see it as a game changer.


1,520 posted on 10/11/2011 7:35:00 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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